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Feb 9, 2024 13:26:56   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
THAT is a BULLSHIT lie and you know it. The Constitution clearly outlines what is to be done and doesn't mention states at all. This is a federal issue and has nothing to do with States Rights deciding who can be listed on ballots for a Presidential Election. You have to be shitting me with that answer. Surely you can't be foolish enough to present that idiocy as truth.

Dennis


This is not a presidential election and no where in the constitution is the government given the authority to mess in state or party votes.

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Feb 9, 2024 13:28:04   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Ross Perot lost didn’t he?


So ?

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Feb 9, 2024 13:30:04   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
This is not a presidential election and no where in the constitution is the government given the authority to mess in state or party votes.


This leads up to a Presidential election doesn't it? Show me where a state gets to deprive Trump from his name being on the ballot for ANY election. Tell me why any state has the power to deprive him of his name being on any ballot for election.

I will make it simple for you since you are totally incapable of understanding common sense.
Why should the State of Colorado or any State take Trump's name off the ballot, any ballot?

Dennis

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Feb 9, 2024 13:39:28   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
National Park wrote:
Prove that Trump was "illegally spied upon by the OBama weaponized FBI and DOJ."

Being prosecuted for refusing to abide by the votes of Americans and essentially attempting a coup to overthrow the results are not "piss ant charges." If Biden had done what Trump did you would be singing a much different tune.


Rip Van Winkle, have you been sleeping under a tree for the last 8 years?

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Feb 9, 2024 13:39:39   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
This leads up to a Presidential election doesn't it? Show me where a state gets to deprive Trump from his name being on the ballot for ANY election. Tell me why any state has the power to deprive him of his name being on any ballot for election.

I will make it simple for you since you are totally incapable of understanding common sense.
Why should the State of Colorado or any State take Trump's name off the ballot, any ballot?

Dennis



All I have said is it is a state decision and federal government has no authority to meddle in state primaries or state elections. It is not even a federal election. At one time we didn’t even have primaries. I have never said one way or the other Colorado was right or wrong . So calm down

Read the constitution and show me otherwise.

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Feb 9, 2024 13:45:53   #
Triple G
 
dennis2146 wrote:
This leads up to a Presidential election doesn't it? Show me where a state gets to deprive Trump from his name being on the ballot for ANY election. Tell me why any state has the power to deprive him of his name being on any ballot for election.

I will make it simple for you since you are totally incapable of understanding common sense.
Why should the State of Colorado or any State take Trump's name off the ballot, any ballot?

Dennis


https://www.pogo.org/reports/routine-disqualification-every-state-has-kept-ineligible-candidates-off-the-ballot-and-trump-could-be-next

https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment14/annotation15.html

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Feb 9, 2024 13:48:57   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
All I have said is it is a state decision and federal government has no authority to meddle in state primaries or state elections. It is not even a federal election. At one Ike we didn’t even have primaries. I have never said one way or the other Colorado was right or wrong . So calm down

Read the constitution and show me otherwise.


Read my already posted comments on the Constitution. Did you somehow miss those?

Now answer my question regarding why should the State of Colorado take Trump's name off the ballot, any ballot.


Primaries ARE a form of election are they not? Don't voters vote on who they feel should be the front runner for the Presidential election? Did you miss that part? What the hell is it with you that you have no idea how this government works? How is it you feel you can just make this shit up and then dare anyone to go against your misguided opinion.

Primaries are for voters to choose who will run for the Presidential election. You may have noticed the only Republican still on the election trail is Nikki Haley. Others have dropped out because they could not compete with President Trump. Not having Trump's name on the primary ballot means he won't be voted as first choice by those voters because his name won't be there. Why should they have to write in his name?

Why must talking to you be like talking to a brick? Are you truly unable to understand?

Dennis

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Feb 9, 2024 13:54:36   #
Triple G
 
dennis2146 wrote:
THAT is a BULLSHIT lie and you know it. The Constitution clearly outlines what is to be done and doesn't mention states at all. This is a federal issue and has nothing to do with States Rights deciding who can be listed on ballots for a Presidential Election. You have to be shitting me with that answer. Surely you can't be foolish enough to present that idiocy as truth.

Dennis


If it were clear, constitutional scholars wouldn't be split on all of the points I outlined and it wouldn't need SCOTUS. It has never been applied to the presidency so for you to say it is clear means you know nothing of the complexities involved.

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Feb 9, 2024 13:59:38   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Read my already posted comments on the Constitution. Did you somehow miss those?


Where ? Where does it say anything about party primaries and give federal government any control over same

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Now answer my question regarding why should the State of Colorado take Trump's name off the ballot, any ballot.

I don’t know . It’s up to the state


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Primaries ARE a form of election are they not?


Yes but they are not elections and only happen in some states - not all

And thus federal government has no say. ( unless new laws are passed ). Maybe you think federal government should be empowered to direct Iowa to have a primaries

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Feb 9, 2024 14:00:07   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Triple G wrote:
https://www.pogo.org/reports/routine-disqualification-every-state-has-kept-ineligible-candidates-off-the-ballot-and-trump-could-be-next

https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment14/annotation15.html


All well and good but FIRST there must be someone to actually give Trump his Due Process in order to find him to be an insurrectionist. For my money, as I have explained and posted, that someone is ONLY Congress as I pointed out. A State Attorney General is not at liberty to simply say they feel Trump is an insurrectionist without any trial, judge or jury, with nothing but that person deciding on their own for the entire state.

Show us where Trump has had his Due Process where a judge or anybody has questioned him, spoken with witnesses, SOMETHING where he has been found guilty by ANYBODY other than simply a group of Left Wingers who hate Trump. Surely our Constitution would require more than that bullshit kangaroo court to make a decision that a person can be barred from running for the office of President. Grow up and face facts. Nobody has given Trump any Due Process have they? This is nothing more than a very small group of people with their panties in a wad doing their best to CONTROL the election process but without any official standing.

I am a voter. I and Millions of other Conservative voters will definitely cast a vote for President Trump as opposed to the dumb ass POS Biden for the office of POTUS. Most likely Millions of voters in Colorado will also vote for President Trump no matter what the LEFT WING AG says or does. That person is overstepping their bounds and have no right to ban Trump from being elected by any means just because you think he was involved in Insurrection.

Dennis

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Feb 9, 2024 14:02:30   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Triple G wrote:
If it were clear, constitutional scholars wouldn't be split on all of the points I outlined and it wouldn't need SCOTUS. It has never been applied to the presidency so for you to say it is clear means you know nothing of the complexities involved.


You and lil denny must be twins.

Dennis

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Feb 9, 2024 14:04:03   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Yes but they are not elections and only happen in some states - not all

And thus federal government has no say. ( unless new laws are passed ). Maybe you think federal government should be empowered to direct Iowa to have a primaries


I give up. Your stupidity wins just because I don't have time to keep asking you questions you refuse to answer. If you knew how to answer those questions you would look at yourself and claim, I really am a dunce.

Dennis

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Feb 9, 2024 14:05:50   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I give up. Your stupidity wins just because I don't have time to keep asking you questions you refuse to answer. If you knew how to answer those questions you would look at yourself and claim, I really am a dunce.

Dennis


You didn’t answer my question. Where in the constitution ?
You selectively that out of your reply to quote didn’t you ?

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Feb 9, 2024 14:12:21   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
You didn’t answer my question. Where in the constitution ?
You selectively that out of your reply to quote didn’t you ?


I earlier pointed out Article 14 Section 3. How the F did you miss that? Maybe your mouth was running with only BS coming out.

Of course you selectively did not answer my question of how a State AG could decide all on their own to disqualify Trump or anybody from running in the primary and/or a Presidential election/any election. How odd it is mostly DEMOCRATS who are doing this with the exception of someone said a few Republicans in Colorado who didn't think Trump should be on the ballot. Sorry but those few people and the AG do not get to decide who Colorado voters get to choose to vote for.

Dennis

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Feb 9, 2024 14:16:10   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
You didn’t answer my question. Where in the constitution ?
You selectively that out of your reply to quote didn’t you ?


Where in the constitution does it say anything about the president being disqualified under the 14th amendment section 3? Is it true that the US Constitution takes precedent over a state constitution? I don’t know I’m not certain.

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