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Jan 27, 2024 09:13:57   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
survivaldealer wrote:
The military has determined that if a person has an IQ of 83 or less that there is nothing meaningful they can do. That is a full 10% of the global population. Now that the public education system, including college, has dumbed people down for the last 50 years, some people do not even know what sex they are even if they pull down their pants and look. Maybe AI will make it so we don't need a manual. Like just say to the camera: I want it to look like it is dark with everything but the subject out of focus. Click.
The military has determined that if a person has a... (show quote)


There’s always Neanderthal that’s trying to get posts relegated to the attic.

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Jan 27, 2024 10:07:36   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
survivaldealer wrote:
The military has determined that if a person has an IQ of 83 or less that there is nothing meaningful they can do. That is a full 10% of the global population. Now that the public education system, including college, has dumbed people down for the last 50 years, some people do not even know what sex they are even if they pull down their pants and look. Maybe AI will make it so we don't need a manual. Like just say to the camera: I want it to look like it is dark with everything but the subject out of focus. Click.
The military has determined that if a person has a... (show quote)


If you want to post thoughts like this, subscribe to the UHH section known as The Attic. It's where all controversy goes to die.

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Jan 27, 2024 15:55:01   #
BearFotog Loc: Florida USA
 
My new Nikon Z8 arrived the first week in January and I have yet to shoot with it. I have been reading the manual that came with it, plus reading any other user guide from Nikon Ambassadors and watching anything I can on YouTube regarding the camera. You are so correct when you say RTFM! (My new favorite term!) This camera is so different from other Nikons I have owned. There’s much to be learned in those 900 page manuals! I am sure that I may forget most of what I have read, but when I have a question, I will know where to get the answer. I enjoyed reading your insightful message! Bravo!!

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Jan 27, 2024 16:00:22   #
scoundrel Loc: Wytheville VA
 
survivaldealer wrote:
. . . Maybe AI will make it so we don't need a manual. Like just say to the camera: I want it to look like it is dark with everything but the subject out of focus. Click.


I'm not sure that AI would be able to interpret your example reliably, especially if the AI has no way of disambiguating the instructions. In this particular case, the "with everything but the subject out of focus" would be interpreted as using as wide an f-stop as possible, provided that the AI is smart enough not to overdo it for close, deep subjects. The "I want it to look like it is dark" part is more problematic. Should the camera deliberately underexpose the image, perhaps shifting the color balance toward blue a bit to simulate dusk or an ill-lit room and make a truly dark image that truly hides detail? Or should the image only seem dark but in fact have more or less full detail?

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Jan 27, 2024 16:21:54   #
plesko628
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yea...... "Doesn't work" just doesn't cut it when looking to get a problem answered!


A problem well stated, is a problem half solved.

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Jan 27, 2024 20:22:18   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
survivaldealer wrote:
..Maybe AI will make it so we don't need a manual. Like just say to the camera: I want it to look like it is dark with everything but the subject out of focus. Click.
I expect that will indeed be the case.

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Jan 28, 2024 14:22:06   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
I always try to fix something before calling for help. I don't always get it, but I learn something from the experience.
And after all, isn't that the reason behind it, to learn something?

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Jan 28, 2024 14:27:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
topcat wrote:
I always try to fix something before calling for help. I don't always get it, but I learn something from the experience.
And after all, isn't that the reason behind it, to learn something?


Yep. And if you really want to learn how to do something, learn it deeply enough to teach someone else how to do it.

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Jan 28, 2024 19:27:50   #
scoundrel Loc: Wytheville VA
 
topcat wrote:
I always try to fix something before calling for help. I don't always get it, but I learn something from the experience.
And after all, isn't that the reason behind it, to learn something?


Among those things to research is how far you can go before voiding the warranty, if it hasn't already expired.

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Jan 29, 2024 09:49:55   #
DPW Loc: Monroe, NH
 
And then there are those of us who are hands on learners. The manual is greek to me until I have taken something apart or used it to some degree then have the manual to help me fix what I messed up on or do not understand. Too many sales pitches sell ease of use instead of ease of use after you learn how to use it.

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Jan 29, 2024 10:04:41   #
HowManyPicturesHaveWeTaken Loc: CO
 
Hi Bill, That was educational and made me smile. Thank you

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Jan 29, 2024 11:05:02   #
radiojohn
 
I've written several "how-to" books/audiobooks/multimedia products for techno beginners over the years. These started with "The DOS Tape" and moved on to "What Is Windows? ," "What's A Modem?" "How To Buy Your First Digital Camera" and more. All did well.

One thing I learned is that we are living in a "plop, plop, fizz, fizz...oh what a relief it is" society.

For example, starting with "The DOS Tape" an continuing through Window 3.1 and beyond, I stressed FILE MANAGEMENT as in knowing where your files go.

Meanwhile Microsoft kept trying to hide real file management concepts under layers of "simplification." How many different way do you need to copy a file? Anyone remember "BOB?"

Glossing over technical complexity with a veneer of simplicity does not let the user off the hook when something more challenging come up.

I cannot tell you how many folks in my basic digital camera class could not understand WHY shots taken with their digital point and shoot or DSLR with "kit" lens of indoor sports came out "blurry." NO understanding of basic physics.

This lack of thinking or lwillingness to learn seems to be spreading.

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Jan 29, 2024 12:04:36   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
radiojohn wrote:
I've written several "how-to" books/audiobooks/multimedia products for techno beginners over the years. These started with "The DOS Tape" and moved on to "What Is Windows? ," "What's A Modem?" "How To Buy Your First Digital Camera" and more. All did well.

One thing I learned is that we are living in a "plop, plop, fizz, fizz...oh what a relief it is" society.

For example, starting with "The DOS Tape" an continuing through Window 3.1 and beyond, I stressed FILE MANAGEMENT as in knowing where your files go.

Meanwhile Microsoft kept trying to hide real file management concepts under layers of "simplification." How many different way do you need to copy a file? Anyone remember "BOB?"

Glossing over technical complexity with a veneer of simplicity does not let the user off the hook when something more challenging come up.

I cannot tell you how many folks in my basic digital camera class could not understand WHY shots taken with their digital point and shoot or DSLR with "kit" lens of indoor sports came out "blurry." NO understanding of basic physics.

This lack of thinking or unwillingness to learn seems to be spreading.
I've written several "how-to" books/audi... (show quote)


You can learn TO do something, but when it doesn't work right, you must know WHY and HOW it is supposed to work, at least well enough to know WHAT to do next.

I've always hated Microsoft's "technically correct, but functionally useless to real users" error messages. They assume you are as knowledgeable as the developers. My favorite was something like, "Unimplemented Trap". Hell, it seems like a trap to me! Why am I here, and how do I avoid getting here again? Who can I reach out and grill for answers?

I've always thought that error messages should say something honest, like, "We didn't anticipate that this could happen! You have to restart the program. Sorry you may have lost some data." Don't just leave the poor user without a map out of the jungle. Throw 'em a lifeline.

Do this step: [action]
After: [previous action]
With: [tools, supplies, information...]
Because: [why, purpose...]
Before: [next step]
Expected Result: [desired outcome]
Other Possible Outcomes: [failures]
Failure Remedies: [try this, that, or something else...]

I remember Bob and "Clippy," the dancing paperclip with useless advice that stole all my system resources.

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Jan 30, 2024 00:52:30   #
HowManyPicturesHaveWeTaken Loc: CO
 
Lots of philosophical thinking and common sense advice. I'm enjoying this. Thanks to all of you

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Jan 30, 2024 09:56:28   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
HowManyPicturesHaveWeTaken wrote:
Lots of philosophical thinking and common sense advice. I'm enjoying this. Thanks to all of you


Well, it sort of went all over the map from where I thought it would, but if it's entertaining, and informative, I like it!

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