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Jan 28, 2024 12:47:03   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
It’s been proven that kids that grow up on dairy farms have the fewest allergies of all. Other livestock farms next, then row crop farms. On the opposite end of the scale are the kids who have multiple allergies and are the ones that grew up in the ultra clean homes run by a no doubt OCD momma.

The conclusion of the study was that kids having close contact with animals, plants or plant products (grain, hay, pastures) and common molds had the fewest allergies. Kids that weren’t digging in the dirt, playing with pets and lived in spotlessly clean homes had the most allergies. A simple case of exposure building resistance.

The above is from an article in a farm magazine (Farm Journal, Successful Farming?) I read years ago. I’m thinking the CDC was also involved.

Without a doubt someone here dispute all this because they know someone that grew up on a dairy farm and have multiple allergies and so on. Two things, I know a woman that grew up on a dairy and never once milked a cow or even went into the barn. And there are always exceptions no matter what it is. There are a few people that die on the operating table from the general anesthesia just as there are people that die from being in the same room with a peanut or oyster.
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Generally speaking, I don't doubt there is truth to that.
There must, though, be something more involved in some cases....genetics, or something beyond the personal exposure from youth.

At one ranch where I worked, there were family members from three generations of the owners. Everyone of them, except the spouses of the married members of the original family line, lived and worked on that ranch their entire lives.

Not a dairy, but there were a couple milk cows for milk to use on the ranch.
Sheep and cattle were the line of work.
Horses, for work.....some pleasure riding, if the work was done and someone felt they hadn't been in the saddle enough hours that week.
All the hay for the 6000+ sheep, 600+ cow outfit was raised and put up on the ranch.

About three quarters of the 23 members of the owner families had allergies.
Some could work with sheep, but were allergic to cows....others vice versa.
Some could work with alfalfa, but were allergic to orchard grass....others vice versa.
A couple had allergic problems with all the hay. One of those could irrigate the growing crop, but could not be around it after it was cut and cured.
A couple were allergic to horses.
I don't recall exactly, but it seems one of the fellows had an allergy related to drinking milk.
Some of them were very, very dangerously allergic to the allergen that affected them.
None of them were allergic to work.
None of the spouses, who had married into the owner family, showed signs of allergies, though some of their children did.

It impressed me at the time, and is brought back to mind from time to time, how there is what seems a high percentage of those affected by allergies in that one extended family, without a common trait of all being allergic to the same things.
I don't know if medical researchers have any theories or tests related to familial tendencies to allergic reactions.

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Jan 28, 2024 13:59:04   #
pdsdville Loc: Midlothian, Tx
 
Allergies can and do change as a person ages. I've eaten pecans all my life and in pretty large quantities. All of a sudden two years ago I became deathly allergic to them. Had to go to the emergency room for dehydration due to loss of body fluids. I don't touch them now.

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Jan 28, 2024 14:11:09   #
srg
 
jerryc41 wrote:
They also say the earth is flat. I know people who developed a chocolate allergy later in life, and I know others who developed peanut allergies later. Both ate those foods in their younger years. I've developed a slight allergy to cats, although I've had one or more since I was a kid.

Being allergic to nuts is so widespread and so serious that there should be more research into it. I suspect it isn't profitable enough, though.


Are you implying that the earth is NOT flat???

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Jan 28, 2024 14:20:09   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
I used to get PI. One time I cleaned out a patch of bittersweet and later got a large PI rash. When it cleared up, I had immunity. I could pull it out by the roots and afterwards I might get a couple small dots. Sometimes not even that.

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Jan 28, 2024 14:54:26   #
srg
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I used to get PI. One time I cleaned out a patch of bittersweet and later got a large PI rash. When it cleared up, I had immunity. I could pull it out by the roots and afterwards I might get a couple small dots. Sometimes not even that.


In the spring, when it first comes out, I pick small leaves and chew them up for the same reason. It works!

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Jan 28, 2024 15:58:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Scruples wrote:
People can have allergies to birds, cats and dogs. Many believe the fur or feathers initiate the response. That is not correct. It is the dried saliva hat is allergenic. There are specific shampoos called AllerPet. You can buy them in pet stores specific for the species


Dried saliva - Isn't that called "dander"?

Is there such a thing as a salivectomy? 🤣

See an alternative to the shampoo below. The picture makes it look like the dog is supposed to do the clipping. I suspect the liquid in the bottle knocks the dog out to make clipping easier. Or, maybe it's oil for the clippers.

That's quite a set. All I have for myself is a cheap pair of scissors, but I always wear a hat when I leave the house.



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Jan 28, 2024 21:22:37   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
dustie, I don’t doubt that a bit and yes, I suspect that DNA plays a large part. We used to have cattle and it was always the same two cows that bloated. If it was only the forage, then you think that it would be random individuals rather than the two same individuals.

I have selected sheep for decades based upon internal parasite tolerance, something that has driven more than one producer out of business. Once that was under control, then I selected for enterotoximia, another serious problem with sheep and goats. After decades of selection I now never treat for parasites or vaccinate. I still lose a few to either one but DNA now does what medications didn’t completely control before.

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Jan 29, 2024 08:38:50   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
There have been studies in Israel that children that ate a peanut butter cookie (called bamba?) developed fewer allergies to peanuts. You can buy these cookies specifically made for young children in the U.S. My grandson loves them.

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Jan 29, 2024 09:37:08   #
JBRIII
 
We travel periodically with a changing group of adults for exotic plants, cactus, succulents and others. I have been very surprised that even in groups of 12 max. there are generally several with this problem, shellfish, nuts, lactose, etc. My father developed the gluten problem late in life 80's? where a cousin had it in high school. General wheat allergies are like gluten a real problem as the stuff is in everything.

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Jan 29, 2024 09:48:57   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JBRIII wrote:
We travel periodically with a changing group of adults for exotic plants, cactus, succulents and others. I have been very surprised that even in groups of 12 max. there are generally several with this problem, shellfish, nuts, lactose, etc. My father developed the gluten problem late in life 80's? where a cousin had it in high school. General wheat allergies are like gluten a real problem as the stuff is in everything.


It can't be a coincidence that so many people are developing health problems.

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Jan 29, 2024 11:04:53   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
jerryc41 wrote:
They also say the earth is flat. I know people who developed a chocolate allergy later in life, and I know others who developed peanut allergies later. Both ate those foods in their younger years. I've developed a slight allergy to cats, although I've had one or more since I was a kid.

Being allergic to nuts is so widespread and so serious that there should be more research into it. I suspect it isn't profitable enough, though.


It become a somewhat confusing issue. Peanuts are not real nuts but a legume and do not grow on trees. So it is possible to be allergic to nuts and not peanuts.
But when in doubt trill about.

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Jan 29, 2024 12:26:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
paulrph1 wrote:
It become a somewhat confusing issue. Peanuts are not real nuts but a legume and do not grow on trees. So it is possible to be allergic to nuts and not peanuts.
But when in doubt trill about.


They sometimes use the expression, "Tree nuts or peanuts." From my experience, if someone is allergic to one, he's allergic to both. This must be bad for the peanut butter industry. Imagine being allergic to walnuts but not cashews, etc.

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Jan 29, 2024 14:24:27   #
ft Loc: New York, USA
 
LittleRed wrote:
Very true that a person’s allergies can change as they age. I was 70 years of age when diagnosed with an allergy to gluten. This created a totally different world for me. No more regular breads, pastries, pastas as all contain wheat. Happily I am not totally celiac but only have a strong intolerance to gluten. Will not kill me but just sick to the stomach and not straying too far from the porcelain throne if I accidentally ingest some. Also no more beer (👹👹) or American coolers, no more fast food visits like MacDonalds (no gluten free products including fries as they are cooked in the same oil as breaded nuggets etc). Even regular restaurants are troublesome as a lot of items contains some form of gluten. Grocery shopping is interesting as one has to read the ingredients list on everything. Also the increased cost of gluten free products are becoming an issue especially if a senior with a fixed income. A edible loaf of bread costs me 10 bucks or more! No choice either pay up or do without
So from personal experience I can attest that an allergy can catch you at any age.

LittleRed (Ron)
Very true that a person’s allergies can change as ... (show quote)



I can confirm this. I had 63 great years of pasta and pizza when I was diagnosed with Celiacs

I used to think this gluten allergy thing was a bunch of b.s.

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Jan 29, 2024 14:56:16   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Allergies are not Horse Puckies. They are real and can be mild to quite severe. If you are diagnosed with one or more you should take it quite seriously. You should have a Medical Alert bracelet or necklace.

Antihistamines should be prescribed.

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Jan 29, 2024 15:30:09   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A ballet dancer in NYC died after eating cookies that contained peanuts. It was a new formula, and the package hadn't been undated to mention the peanuts................[/i]

That will be the result of capitalism and greed. I bet they had some of the old packaging left and wanted to use them up first.

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