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Jan 21, 2024 14:57:43   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
This thread is proving inspirational for me. My wife has a little garden - about 10 acres, with 99% ornamentals. About 20 years ago, I began photographing her botanicals in decline, when I discovered some tulips that had withered in a vase, but still struck me as interesting. About seven yeas ago, I took a non-credit course in photographic portfolio, and ended up focusing on those decline botanicals. Pressed to present a document describing my work, I stumbled across the concept of wabi-sabi, with which I had had to that point very little familiarity.

Something else I've been taught is that the best photographs tell a story, an idea I always likened to the deli meat I liked best as a small child. There's no story in a portrait head shot, or a portrait of a flower, or an abstract icicle, I believed. Now we're talking about the beauty in impermanence, imperfection, and interconnection, and I think I'm learning something about story telling photographs.

Wabi-sabi is a set of ideas, and I think wabi-sabi photographs tell the story of those ideas. The image of an older woman who has hit the lottery tells the story of striking it rich, not the story of impermanence, imperfection, and interconnection. The image of an obviously older person playing in a band can tell a story of musicians, or it might tell the story of impermanence, imperfection, and interconnection, and sometimes it might tell both stories. An image of a decaying building can tell the story of impermanence, imperfection, and interconnection, or it can tell the story of a moody scene, and sometimes it can tell both stories. So, I think the best wabi-sabi photographs do the best job of telling the wabi-sabi story, that everything is impermanent, imperfect, and interconnected to everything else.

Anyway, that's my latest take on it; tomorrow's another day.

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Jan 21, 2024 15:22:12   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
R.G. wrote:
If I wanted to put something out there as "wabi sabi" I'd probably start with something that I perceived as being a safe option. It would appear that ageing is a recurring theme with this subject so I would look for people or things that were growing old gracefully, or if not gracefully then at least with some kind of pleasing aesthetic.

The thing is, it occurs to me that we already have subjects like dilapidated sheds, candids of homeless people, interior shots of old-style tool sheds and the like, and they apparently don't need any kind of label other than a descriptive title. Apparently many of us have been practicing wabi sabi without realising it.

If anybody finds the concept of wabi sabi inspiring I'm pleased for them but I think some of them may be missing the point that wabi sabi is just another description for subjects that we're already familiar with and already make good use of.
If I wanted to put something out there as "wa... (show quote)


Well said. That is what I was trying to understand all along. Wabi-sabi is a philosophy so general that it can apply to any endeavor. In photography is simply is simply a label someone hung on a image and the term caught on.

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Jan 21, 2024 15:31:29   #
CaltechNerd Loc: Whittier, CA, USA
 
Years ago, I saw a wonderful exhibit at the Met of the original wabi-sabi ceramics. A total repudiation of the perfect ceramics that had evolved in Japan. They were so perfect that they might as well have been machine made (though there were no machines back then). Such perfect uniformity was no longer attractive or at all natural.

The wabi-sabi ceramics were rough, seriously imperfect, and all very natural. No tree or rock is perfectly symmetrical. That was the aesthetic of the ceramics on display.

For me, personally, a wabi-sabi photograph would be imperfect in an interesting way. Taken with a pinhole camera. Or just enough movement to partially hide the subject. Or seriously over or under exposed to hide detail but show something of interest. Or an interesting double-exposure. For me, the picture would have to be compelling, not just messed up.

Achieving this is way beyond my artistic/photographic talents but I'd be interested to see a master who can pull it off. Here are some examples of photographs labeled wabi-sabi. I agree with these and I think you can go much further with wabi-sabi as I've described above.
https://www.digitalphotomentor.com/wabi-sabi-photography-challenge-embrace-imperfection/

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Jan 21, 2024 15:32:33   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
OK I did not mean to start a fire storm and I certainly did not mean to alienate a wonderful lady who I still consider a friend. I will stop posting to this thread effective now and my deepest apologies to anyone I may have unintentionally offended in any way.

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Jan 21, 2024 15:35:45   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
OK I did not mean to start a fire storm and I certainly did not mean to alienate a wonderful lady who I still consider a friend. I will stop posting to this thread effective now and my deepest apologies to anyone I may have unintentionally offended in any way.


No offense, Jack; rather, appreciation. As I noted, I have found the discussion useful.

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Jan 21, 2024 15:38:36   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
OK I did not mean to start a fire storm and I certainly did not mean to alienate a wonderful lady who I still consider a friend. I will stop posting to this thread effective now and my deepest apologies to anyone I may have unintentionally offended in any way.
?????

I don't believe you've insulted or alienated anyone, Jack. We're just talking. If you inferred a certain tone from my comments, it may be simply my frustration in not understanding some comments.

I just read ctbsam's latest entry and was very inspired!!

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Jan 21, 2024 15:39:42   #
CaltechNerd Loc: Whittier, CA, USA
 
cbtsam,
I love your thoughts on wabi-sabi and photography.

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Jan 21, 2024 15:46:08   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
John Matthew, that is the most clear, concise statement I have ever read on UHH.


Thanks, Jack.

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Jan 21, 2024 16:00:03   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
CaltechNerd wrote:
cbtsam,
I love your thoughts on wabi-sabi and photography.


Well, thank you very much.

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Jan 21, 2024 16:00:03   #
gener202002
 
I don't know if it is Wabi Sabi, but it is nicey nicey.

great bird pic

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Jan 21, 2024 16:04:22   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Add some wasabi to the cup for a quick eye opener.


Yes, please!

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Jan 21, 2024 16:24:42   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
With regard to photography, what exactly is Wabi Sabi ? Is it a single image with a lot of negative space ? Is a Saki bottle on a black background Wabi Sabi or does it have to be on a white background ? It seems that a lot of us have been doing this kind of photography/post processing for a long time without ever giving it a name.


So, this subject is actually… new to me.
I’ve never, that I can recall, heard this term before. Maybe I should get out more!

Dead, but not taxed….
….. prolly belongs in the “Bird” section….



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Jan 21, 2024 16:43:06   #
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cbtsam wrote:
This thread is proving inspirational for me. ..... About 20 years ago, I began photographing her botanicals in decline, when I discovered some tulips that had withered in a vase, but still struck me as interesting. About seven yeas ago, I took a non-credit course in photographic portfolio, and ended up focusing on those decline botanicals.
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As with the human visage, decining botanicals seem to convey some message that is absent in the fresh young face or fresh flower.


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Jan 21, 2024 16:47:04   #
srt101fan
 
srg wrote:
As to the philosophy of impermanence.
It seems I'm a bit impatient about torn jeans, tattoos, and B&W photography.
Hope they die out in my lifetime.


I hope your equating B&W photography with tattoos and torn jeans is not emblematic of your knowledge, understanding and appreciation of the visual arts!

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Jan 21, 2024 16:48:55   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
srt101fan wrote:
I hope your equating B&W photography with tattoos and torn jeans is not emblematic of your knowledge, understanding and appreciation of the visual arts!


Have to agree with you on this one.

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