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Jan 20, 2024 08:06:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
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Jan 20, 2024 08:10:53   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BebuLamar wrote:
You can install the same copy of Windows 10 on a new drive. The license goes with the computer not the drive.


Yes, I've done that several times when replacing an HDD with an SSD. Samsaung has a free program for copying the C drive onto their SSD. It works only with Samsung drives, though - Samsung Magician.

I bought Win10 ($78), got the key, and installed the SSD into the computer. I also went to the MS site and downloaded Win10 onto a flash drive, and the computer will boot from that tog et started. Maybe I'll get to that today.

It's 12° now, with a high of 18°. I think I'll stay home today.

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Jan 20, 2024 08:17:17   #
BebuLamar
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, I've done that several times when replacing an HDD with an SSD. Samsaung has a free program for copying the C drive onto their SSD. It works only with Samsung drives, though - Samsung Magician.

I bought Win10 ($78), got the key, and installed the SSD into the computer. I also went to the MS site and downloaded Win10 onto a flash drive, and the computer will boot from that tog et started. Maybe I'll get to that today.

It's 12° now, with a high of 18°. I think I'll stay home today.
Yes, I've done that several times when replacing a... (show quote)


I don't think you need a key. You simply install Win10 from the flash drive and MS will remember that they has activated the same computer before and will activate your computer.

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Jan 20, 2024 08:29:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't think you need a key. You simply install Win10 from the flash drive and MS will remember that they has activated the same computer before and will activate your computer.


Time will tell.

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Jan 20, 2024 09:34:09   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It had Win10, but I don't recall what happened to that drive. It's been a few years. It's a good computer with Core i7 and 32GB of memory and Asus motherboard. It will be all SSD when it's finished.

I can buy Win10 for under $80, so that's not too bad.


Ok. That’s another problem you might have. Your computer might not be suitable for Windows 11.
I have a Dell 8900. I believe you have the same or newer model. It’s pretty powerful but I cannot put Windows 11 on it.
I WAS, however, able to install it on my 2 year old Acer Laptop which came with Windows 10.

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Jan 20, 2024 10:05:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Indi wrote:
Ok. That’s another problem you might have. Your computer might not be suitable for Windows 11.
I have a Dell 8900. I believe you have the same or newer model. It’s pretty powerful but I cannot put Windows 11 on it.
I WAS, however, able to install it on my 2 year old Acer Laptop which came with Windows 10.


That's an odd situation with Win11. Will thousands of people have to buy new computers when MS forces everyone to use Win11? Isn't there a way to make a computer Win11 compliant?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-11-whether-your-pc-is-supported-or-not/

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Jan 20, 2024 10:05:58   #
BebuLamar
 
Indi wrote:
Ok. That’s another problem you might have. Your computer might not be suitable for Windows 11.
I have a Dell 8900. I believe you have the same or newer model. It’s pretty powerful but I cannot put Windows 11 on it.
I WAS, however, able to install it on my 2 year old Acer Laptop which came with Windows 10.


But Jerry doesn't want to install Windows 11.

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Jan 20, 2024 10:24:31   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I heard it won't have any windows - LCDs all around.

Somewhat related - Car makers have wanted to replace sideview mirrors with electronics to reduce wind resistance, but reliability is a concern. If a driver suddenly loses sight of what's going on next to him, that could be a big problem. My Fit turns on a camera when I signal right or put it into reverse. Very nice. The cameras are tiny.

Your response about Sideview mirrors reminded me of something I learned about a year ago. As you may know, newer cars have the option of including a little light in their side view mirrors that tell the driver when an upcoming car is in their blind spot. My car doesn’t have that, however, I was watching some video a year or so ago about someone taking a lesson in a racing car. The driving instructor told the person in the racing car to move the Sideview mirrors out slightly from where they would normally position them. This in essence removes the Blindspot.

I tried doing this on both my car and my wife’s car, and it definitely works! I do it on both the drivers side mirror and the passenger side View mirror. You have to fool around with the adjustment a little bit, but you can get the Sideview mirrors to the point where when a car is in your blind spot, you actually do see it in your Sideview mirror.

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Jan 20, 2024 10:43:02   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
That's an odd situation with Win11. Will thousands of people have to buy new computers when MS forces everyone to use Win11? Isn't there a way to make a computer Win11 compliant?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-11-whether-your-pc-is-supported-or-not/

You’re the researcher. There might be away.

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Jan 20, 2024 10:55:07   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Fredrick wrote:
Your response about Sideview mirrors reminded me of something I learned about a year ago. As you may know, newer cars have the option of including a little light in their side view mirrors that tell the driver when an upcoming car is in their blind spot. My car doesn’t have that, however, I was watching some video a year or so ago about someone taking a lesson in a racing car. The driving instructor told the person in the racing car to move the Sideview mirrors out slightly from where they would normally position them. This in essence removes the Blindspot.

I tried doing this on both my car and my wife’s car, and it definitely works! I do it on both the drivers side mirror and the passenger side View mirror. You have to fool around with the adjustment a little bit, but you can get the Sideview mirrors to the point where when a car is in your blind spot, you actually do see it in your Sideview mirror.
Your response about Sideview mirrors reminded me o... (show quote)


Right! I got that from Click & Clack on Car Talk (radio) years ago. Lean your head against the window and adjust the left mirror to see the left lane. Move to the center of the car and adjust the right mirror to see the right lane.

Another tip: hold the steering wheel at the 8:00 and 4:00 positions. This will protect your hands and arms from getting hurt if the airbag deploys. I've seen police driving like this. Another benefit is that your upper arms are resting on your body so it's less tiring. 9:00 and 2:00 is a popular recommendation, but I prefer 8:00 and 4:00.

https://www.google.com/search?q=best+hand+position+on+steering+wheel&oq=best+hand+position+on+steering+wheel&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyCQgAEEUYORiABDIICAEQABgWGB4yCAgCEAAYFhgeMggIAxAAGBYYHjIICAQQABgWGB4yCAgFEAAYFhgeMggIBhAAGBYYHjIICAcQABgWGB7SAQg3MzkyajBqNKgCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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Jan 21, 2024 13:09:30   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It had Win10, but I don't recall what happened to that drive. It's been a few years. It's a good computer with Core i7 and 32GB of memory and Asus motherboard. It will be all SSD when it's finished.

I can buy Win10 for under $80, so that's not too bad.


Why not tell us it runs on electricity? That'd be about as useful as saying it's a core i7, has 32gb of RAM, and that it uses an ASUS mobo. Core i7 has been around for about 15 years. Is the RAM at least DDR4? And I had an ASUS motherboard back when Moby Dick was a minnow. Are the SSDs SATA or NVMe M.2?

Now that I'm done with my critique (you make it so easy sometimes, Jerry), I'll say that I've never paid retail for a Micro$oft license. Back in the day, I got them at "computer swap meets" in the greater LA area of SoCal. After escaping Commiefornia 20 years ago, I at first got them from eBay sellers who cleverly sold a Windows license with a piece of PC hardware, such as a motherboard, to skirt eBay's restrictions against OEM license keys. But the sellers said in their listings that the accompanying hardware was not functional and that they'd have to charge for shipping. Instead, they said, a buyer could opt for no hardware and email shipping of the key only and pay no shipping charge. I bought many keys from such sellers for $5-$10.

Alas, eBay no longer allows even that. Any listing for an OEM key is now removed promptly, no matter how it's presented. But fret not. A simple online search will reveal countless OEM key sellers. Many accept PayPal, which is a wise choice when dealing with unfamiliar online entities. Even the popular YouTuber PC Builder advertises an online OEM key seller. Going rate today is $20 or less for Windows 10 (or 11) and around $25-$30 for a Micro$oft Office suite.

For grins & giggles, I just searched eBay for a Windows 10 key. Yup, there are still sellers listing them, but they'll not complete a transaction on eBay. They know the listing will be removed in minutes, so they list their website and ask that buyers go there directly. I bought one or two keys that way a few years ago, but nowadays I just online-search for Windows keys and choose a US-based seller that accepts PayPal.

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Jan 21, 2024 16:54:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
Why not tell us it runs on electricity? That'd be about as useful as saying it's a core i7, has 32gb of RAM, and that it uses an ASUS mobo. Core i7 has been around for about 15 years. Is the RAM at least DDR4? And I had an ASUS motherboard back when Moby Dick was a minnow. Are the SSDs SATA or NVMe M.2?




I was just passing along general information, not listing specs for a detailed analysis. Basically, it's a computer with good specs. Yes, DDR4 3600 (I think).

I bought Win10 for $80, with a valid MS key, and I have a bootable USB drive to get it started. It has a Samsung SSD for the C drive, and I'll probably install a D drive of 4TB or more as the D drive. This isn't a top priority. Since it's basically all there, I thought I might as well get it running - something to play around with.

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