Will Nikon do this, or am I waiting for something that will not happen? (Page 4): No, but they did make a 500 f5.6 pf lens and boy howdy does it work well on a D500!

HRBIEL Loc: Rapid City, SD

imagemeister wrote:

IF Nikon had made the Z 400mm f4.5 an F mount lens I might be a Nikon user with the D500 ! BUT, they did NOT ! 8-( ......and, Canon has no plans of making a 400 R lens

No, but they did make a 500 f5.6 pf lens and boy howdy does it work well on a D500!

photoman43

imagemeister wrote:

IF Nikon had made the Z 400mm f4.5 an F mount lens I might be a Nikon user with the D500 ! BUT, they did NOT ! 8-( ......and, Canon has no plans of making a 400 R lens

But Nikon did make a F mount 500mm f5.6 pf lens and a 300mm f4 pf lens, both of which can be used on a D500 or a Z mount Nikon. For my wildlife needs, a 500mm lens is much more needed than a 400mm prime. I have the Z mount 100-400m S lens, but it gets secondary use compared to my 500mm pf lens on my Z9.

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

500mm on crop frame is too long as a walk around (750mm equiv) and 300mm too short.

400mm on crop is the ideal/optimum (600mm equiv.) and with 1.4 X = 560mm (840mm equiv) - these are the SWEET spots ! - for using a prime lens for wildlife/birds.

And, 500mm on full frame is too short .....

rangel28

I still have my D500 and, while I don't use it as much now that I have Z cameras, I still plan on keeping it. As you noted, Nikon doesn't really have anything to replace it in the APS-C format, although I have gotten some really good results shooting birds with the Z50. There are all kinds of rumors that a new camera announcement is coming soon, and many are predicting a Z6 III will be the next camera released, but I would not be surprised to see a Z50 II, with better autofocus and some other goodies from the Z8, released this year as well.

Peteso Loc: Blacks Hills

For birds and wildlife, the Olympus M4/3 provides similar long lens equivalents. For example, the Oly Pro 300mm prime is a 600mm equiv., and of course, longer equiv. with 1.4x teleconverter...and in a small, light package. For M4/3 zoom lenses, there is the 40-150 f:4 Oly Pro (80-300 equiv.) and 100-400 f:4-6.3 Leica-Lumix (200-800 equiv.), also in a small, light package. Importantly, there is the Oly Pro-Capture feature, although I don't know if the D500 or other Nikon offerings have a similar feature, but it is often essential for birds and wildlife photography, to capture the critical moment. I live in an area where I am often shooting birds and other wildlife (e.g., Elk, Moose, Bears, etc.), so the zoom lenses provide shorter focal lengths for large animals and longer focal lengths for birds, without having to switch lenses.

MJPerini

The D500 is a very good camera that does exactly what you want it to do.
Nikon hasn't yet made a Z crop that you feel is its equal.
Why would you want to stop using what you like, until there is a Nikon Mirrorless that in your opinion is as good?
Trying to guess what any camera company might make and when, is a fruitless exercise.
Take pictures, and if Nikon finally offers something that excites you buy it then.

BTW, I agree with the sentiment expressed above that camera companies often think of crop sensor as entry level, and want people to buy the more profitable (for them) FF cameras. They know it is not true, and sometimes relent and make a D500, but they would probably rather not. It is just their economics.

You are completely correct that having Both FF & Crop can be a powerful combination.

Bill_de Loc: US

imagemeister wrote:

500mm on crop frame is too long as a walk around (750mm equiv) and 300mm too short.

400mm on crop is the ideal/optimum (600mm equiv.) and with 1.4 X = 560mm (840mm equiv) - these are the SWEET spots ! - for using a prime lens for wildlife/birds.

And, 500mm on full frame is too short .....

Or, you could walk a little closer, or not so close to your subjects!

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Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA

jpeterka wrote:

Can you really see a MegaPixel fall off after putting your Z8 in DX mode? Doesn’t the Z8 give you the approximate MP of your D500?

Yes, but the rumored z90 would have 33 mpx., if those rumors are accurate. The D500 would have the potential to produce less noisy shots since the nodes that make up the sensor would be less packed than those of the 45 mpx. z8. This may not be the case though because the z8 would use a more advanced processor that could overcome that situation.

chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA

Bridges wrote:

Yes, but the rumored z90 would have 33 mpx., if those rumors are accurate. The D500 would have the potential to produce less noisy shots since the nodes that make up the sensor would be less packed than those of the 45 mpx. z8. This may not be the case though because the z8 would use a more advanced processor that could overcome that situation.

...wasn't a big fan of the D500's noise output. Like I said before, you'd have fun with the Z50...at least for now. I also await a pro-sumer crop Z, I suppose the Df is in that range but I, like you, want more. If they come out with a 33MP crop Z I'm on it for sure!

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

Bill_de wrote:

Or, you could walk a little closer, or not so close to your subjects!

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I think we all know that is NOT always possible

- I speak from 12 years experience on this .....

That is why I have the Canon 400 5.6L and 400 f4 DO on crop frame and now also full frame...with 1.4 and 2X extenders and Clear Image Zoom
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swimweb1 Loc: Webster, NY

Why not get an adaptor that allows you to use your Nikon glass on a Fujifilm camera. Fujifilm has focused on APSC, and I keep reading folks say they moved from Nikon and Canon to Fujifilm and never want to go back. The Fujifilm X-T5 has the classic controls. The Fujifilm X-H2s has a stacked sensor. Both APSC.

mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA

billnikon wrote:

No, Nikon has not produced a APS-C in a Z body.....

Never mind

mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA

imagemeister wrote:

.... Sony does not have the 400 prime or a crop frame body ! Sony has put all their eggs in the full frame basket and everyone else has followed .....

Have you met the Sony A6100, A6400, A6600 or A6700?

https://electronics.sony.com/imaging/interchangeable-lens-cameras/aps-c/p/ilce6600-b

mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA

DaveyDitzer wrote:

The first two reasons that come to my mind are $3800 (on sale) and 32.1oz (about the same weight as a D850).

Price point, okay maybe.... but the D500 weighs 26.9 oz. Surely 5 oz more won't break an arm? His Z7II will also shoot in DX mode at about 19.5 pixels. Now don't tell me you can really tell the difference in 1 mpxl.

Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA

swimweb1 wrote:

Why not get an adaptor that allows you to use your Nikon glass on a Fujifilm camera. Fujifilm has focused on APSC, and I keep reading folks say they moved from Nikon and Canon to Fujifilm and never want to go back. The Fujifilm X-T5 has the classic controls. The Fujifilm X-H2s has a stacked sensor. Both APSC.

The Fuji cameras excel in one area. They are probably the best camera on the market for out-of-the-camera jpegs. This is because they are set up to emulate their highly desirable Fuji film. This is lost when shooting RAW files.
A friend loved the color shots he got with his Fuji but migrated to Canon because, in all other aspects, he felt it did not hold up. If someone wants to shoot jpeg landscapes it would be a good choice. I don't recall ever seeing anyone shooting birds with a Fuji. I'm sure there are some, but it wouldn't be a top choice for shooting action shots of any kind.