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Jan 17, 2024 17:56:12   #
Rjv58
 
Both

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Jan 17, 2024 18:45:25   #
jaredjacobson
 
lmTrying wrote:
So, are you saying that setting the white balance in camera will negate the in camera raw file and change it to a jpeg?


If your camera is set to produce a raw file, it will produce a raw file (.CR2 or .CR3 for your cameras, .ARW or .ORF for mine). Every manufacturer has a different file format for these files. Raw files contain raw sensor data and sometimes a small thumbnail image produced by the JPEG engine.

If your camera is set to produce a JPEG file (usually has file extension .JPG or .jpg), the camera applies processing to the raw data including white balance, sharpening, contrast manipulations, other color shifts such as increasing vibrancy or saturation or converting to monochrome, and noise reduction. It then saves the result as a JPEG file.

If your camera is set to produce a raw file and your camera raw format includes a thumbnail, it will be a small version of what would be saved as a JPEG. Some operating systems will display this thumbnail when you look at the raw file in the file manager the same way they show a tiny version of the JPEG files in the folder.

If your camera is set to produce both a raw file and a JPEG, you will get both of these files. Creation of the JPEG file does not prevent creation of the raw file. If the camera is set to only produce JPEG, it will only produce the JPEG. If the camera is set to produce only raw, it will only produce raw files (though this may contain a thumbnail as I’ve described above). If the camera is set to produce both types of files, it will produce both.

Some cameras have “creative modes” (name varies by manufacturer) that create effects like pinhole, color washes, color isolation, or film effects. For some of these cameras, shooting in these modes will only produce a JPEG, even if the camera is set to produce raw files. It makes sense that the camera will produce a JPEG, because the raw file does not contain any of the processing manipulations that result in the effect you’ve chosen.

Some cameras will also only produce JPEGs when in a fully automatic mode (that is, something other than Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, or whatever P stands for, which I can never remember; this mode is usually green on the mode dial).

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Jan 17, 2024 19:22:35   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
lmTrying wrote:
My head hurts. LOL.

Maybe part of my confusion has come from my XSi. I set it to record raw. But when I downloaded files to my computer, some were tagged CR2, others were tagged jpeg. CR2 is a raw file, correct?

Then I got an RP. Again, I set it to record raw. When I downloaded into my computer I get two files, a CR3 displaying no image and another file showing the image. Both show the same image number.

So, are you saying that setting the white balance in camera will negate the in camera raw file and change it to a jpeg?

The rest of your information about post processing I pretty well followed.
My head hurts. LOL. br br Maybe part of my confus... (show quote)



The XSI is set to save as RAW + JPG/JPEG then. I have a XSI and if it is set to RAW it only saves files as .CR2 You have to set it if you want both RAW+JPG files to be saved.

selecting a raw file saves all the data the camera captured when you take an image. When it is saved as a jpg/jpeg the camera software applies all in camera setting that you have made. If you only save as a jpg/jpeg the camera will apply in camera settings to the raw files and save it as a jpg/jpeg and toss the rest of the information away.

You specifically have to tell Canon cameras how to save the image within the camera setup menu.

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Jan 17, 2024 19:26:00   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
jaredjacobson wrote:
If your camera is set to produce a raw file, it will produce a raw file (.CR2 or .CR3 for your cameras, .ARW or .ORF for mine). Every manufacturer has a different file format for these files. Raw files contain raw sensor data and sometimes a small thumbnail image produced by the JPEG engine.

If your camera is set to produce a JPEG file (usually has file extension .JPG or .jpg), the camera applies processing to the raw data including white balance, sharpening, contrast manipulations, other color shifts such as increasing vibrancy or saturation or converting to monochrome, and noise reduction. It then saves the result as a JPEG file.

If your camera is set to produce a raw file and your camera raw format includes a thumbnail, it will be a small version of what would be saved as a JPEG. Some operating systems will display this thumbnail when you look at the raw file in the file manager the same way they show a tiny version of the JPEG files in the folder.

If your camera is set to produce both a raw file and a JPEG, you will get both of these files. Creation of the JPEG file does not prevent creation of the raw file. If the camera is set to only produce JPEG, it will only produce the JPEG. If the camera is set to produce only raw, it will only produce raw files (though this may contain a thumbnail as I’ve described above). If the camera is set to produce both types of files, it will produce both.

Some cameras have “creative modes” (name varies by manufacturer) that create effects like pinhole, color washes, color isolation, or film effects. For some of these cameras, shooting in these modes will only produce a JPEG, even if the camera is set to produce raw files. It makes sense that the camera will produce a JPEG, because the raw file does not contain any of the processing manipulations that result in the effect you’ve chosen.

Some cameras will also only produce JPEGs when in a fully automatic mode (that is, something other than Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, or whatever P stands for, which I can never remember; this mode is usually green on the mode dial).
If your camera is set to produce a raw file, it wi... (show quote)


P=program mode

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Jan 17, 2024 19:57:05   #
tkphelps
 
JPEG

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Jan 17, 2024 20:12:51   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Sorry, I didn't know I needed to be so explicit.
Very little deductive reasoning to figure that if one's camera is capable of RAW+JPEG that is both.

Over 95% of the respondents DID figure that out.
I keep forgetting that some have to be hand-held and can't figure things out for themselves.


I get what "ImTrying" Is asking. I thought of that too. Both could mean you sometimes shoot RAW and sometimes shoot JPG, OR it could mean you shoot both RAW+JPG simultaneously (at the same time and get two files per image).

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Jan 17, 2024 20:18:23   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
lmTrying wrote:
Your original post did not specify what "BOTH" means.


I thought of that too. Both could mean you sometimes shoot RAW and sometimes shoot JPG, OR it could mean you shoot both RAW+JPG simultaneously (at the same time and get two files per image).

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Jan 17, 2024 20:23:17   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I thought of that too. Both could mean you sometimes shoot RAW and sometimes shoot JPG, OR it could mean you shoot both RAW+JPG simultaneously (at the same time and get two files per image).

I suppose if one shoots RAW today and JPEG tomorrow, one could say one shoots both, but just not at the same time....

Now I have to qualify "at the same time"?
Maybe I should have said "exclusively"??? Mostly??? Primarily???

What about shooting JPEG in one camera and RAW in another???

Lets see how more intricate or convoluted it can be made......

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Jan 17, 2024 22:39:09   #
scoundrel Loc: Wytheville VA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Yes I have a Coolpix 950 and it shoots TIFF. The file is large even though it's only a 3MP camera.


So do I, but it is now in such bad shape that I hardly ever use it any more. If I remember correctly, the 950 is only 2 MPix (1200 x 1600). I tried the TIFF mode only once because of the large file size.

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Jan 17, 2024 23:20:15   #
Mr. SONY Loc: LI, NY
 
Both

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Jan 18, 2024 00:13:01   #
R3Dude Loc: Spokane WA
 
Raw

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Jan 18, 2024 00:26:07   #
jaredjacobson
 
tkphelps wrote:
JPEG


That's the bunny. Thanks.

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Jan 18, 2024 00:31:10   #
jaredjacobson
 
Longshadow wrote:
I suppose if one shoots RAW today and JPEG tomorrow, one could say one shoots both, but just not at the same time....

Now I have to qualify "at the same time"?
Maybe I should have said "exclusively"??? Mostly??? Primarily???

What about shooting JPEG in one camera and RAW in another???

Lets see how more intricate or convoluted it can be made......


You laugh, but I have one of my primary two cameras set to raw + JPEG and the other set to just raw. I said both, because that's the camera I use most. I could have said both because I shoot both raw and JPEG. And I kind of shoot only JPEG on my iPhone because I don't normally use the raw capture. So that's all three. But on the other hand, the iPhone mostly captures HEIF, which isn't on your list at all.

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Jan 18, 2024 00:34:35   #
R3Dude Loc: Spokane WA
 
Raw 99% of the time.......on occasion I may shoot raw/jpg based on speed need in processing for client.

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Jan 18, 2024 06:03:06   #
BebuLamar
 
Longshadow wrote:
I suppose if one shoots RAW today and JPEG tomorrow, one could say one shoots both, but just not at the same time....

Now I have to qualify "at the same time"?
Maybe I should have said "exclusively"??? Mostly??? Primarily???

What about shooting JPEG in one camera and RAW in another???

Lets see how more intricate or convoluted it can be made......


I shoot raw+JPEG because I don't shoot fast and I really don't use the JPEG unless my wife wants it right away before I have the chance to converse the raw file. However, I know there are people shoot raw when they working slowly and want to do a lot of editing and they shoot JPEG to get the higher frame rate as well as keeping the buffer from running out. So the 2 approachs are totally difference.

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