Our southern border is wide open (Page 22): NO, your question concerned: "WHY would a poor US Citizen......." I answered about 'US citizen' but you somehow thought I was answering...

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

Shutterbug1697 wrote:

Deflection.

NO, your question concerned: "WHY would a poor US Citizen......."

I answered about 'US citizen' but you somehow thought I was answering about migrants.

Go back and read the original.

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

Mr. SONY wrote:

You mean ones like my FIL had? br Or my brother-in... (show quote)

Just goes to show the quality of people you associate with!

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

travelwp wrote:

As I watch the debate between legal and illegal, I look at the financial debt incurred by liberal cities for clothing, food, shelter, medical and education. {taxpayers didn't vote for this).

I just read where in one NY school, kids were told to stay home and work online because the migrants are taking over their school temporarily.

How can a poor US citizen get a low wage job when a migrant will work for less?

1. The money is not the taxpayer’s money. It is the federal government’s money it is spend by the politicians voters put in office

3. The poor US citizen doesn’t those jobs . But the immigrants do and that’s why they came to America

Mr. SONY Loc: LI, NY

Shutterbug1697 wrote:

Just goes to show the quality of people you associate with!

I'm here with you, aren't I?

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

DennyT wrote:

1. The money is not the taxpayer’s money. It is the federal government’s money it is spend by the politicians voters put in office

WOW, you don't understand and you must be the perfect Democrat.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

travelwp wrote:

WOW, you don't understand and you must be the perfect Democrat.

You just don’t get it do you

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

DennyT wrote:

1. The money is not the taxpayer’s money. It is the federal government’s money it is spend by the politicians voters put in office

I'm guessing that you don't pay taxes. If you did, you would understand that government gets money by taxiing people. The Internal Revenue Service takes money from taxpayers and provides the correct government agency with the money.

So you see, the "government's money" is really the taxpayers money.

steve03 Loc: long Lsland

travelwp wrote:

Our southern border is wide open.

Biden wants the southern border to be wide open.
Criminals and terrorists have slid past authorities by sheer numbers.
Fentanyl has killed thousands of our youth.
US cities have serious money problems to house and feed migrants.
VP Harris sent to the border, but did nothing and Biden is satisfied.

The election in 2024 will cause Biden to pretend he has a plan and will create media waves on his plan.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement deported more than 142,000 immigrants in fiscal year 2023, nearly double the number from the year before, as the Biden administration ramped up enforcement to stem illegal border crossings, according to the agency's annual report, published Friday.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

travelwp wrote:

I'm guessing that you don't pay taxes. If you did, you would understand that government gets money by taxiing people. The Internal Revenue Service takes money from taxpayers and provides the correct government agency with the money.

So you see, the "government's money" is really the taxpayers money.

What bullshit!! I worked and paid taxes ( and still do ) my whole l life .

What you can’t seem to understand is that the second the tax money is send to the giver but it is not yours anymore.
Your say in how it is spent is determined by congress that’s ejected by the American people not just you!!!
Quite whining !

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

DennyT wrote:

What you can’t seem to understand is that the second the tax money is send to the giver

Who is the giver? and what did they give?

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

DennyT wrote:

how it is spent is determined by congress

Sometimes Biden spends money with the stoke of his pen.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

DennyT wrote:

What bullshit!! I worked and paid taxes ( and still do ) my whole l life .

What you can’t seem to understand is that the second the tax money is send to the giver but it is not yours anymore.
Your say in how it is spent is determined by congress that’s ejected by the American people not just you!!!
Quite whining !

?????

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

travelwp wrote:

Sometimes Biden spends money with the stoke of his pen.

Where were you when Trump added one trillion dollars to the national debt?

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

Frank T wrote:

Where were you when Trump added one trillion dollars to the national debt?

are you saying Covid had nothing to do with it...or do you donkeys not get covId or just dont care about humans??

Triple G

wilpharm wrote:

are you saying Covid had nothing to do with it...or do you donkeys not get covId or just dont care about humans??

Humans YES. Corporate hand outs? NO

However, one Trump and Republican-driven policy in particular added significantly to the national debt: The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) 2017.

In 2018, the Congressional Budget Office predicted these tax cuts would add nearly $1.9 trillion to the total deficit by 2028. Governments are in deficit when they spend more money than they generate in revenue, meaning they must borrow money to plug the gap—adding to the national debt pile.

According to the most recent update from the Treasury, the country's current national debt currently stands at $31.4 trillion.

The $7 trillion increase in national debt under Trump's presidency is not entirely unique. When Barack Obama entered office in January 2009, the debt stood at $11.1 trillion as the country continued to feel the effects of the 2008 financial crash.

By the end of Obama's final year in office in 2016, the debt was almost $19.9 trillion—an increase of $8.8 trillion, albeit accumulated over the course of eight years and during a longer recession than Trump's presidency experienced.

In a follow-up tweet, Jolly explained that he used "back of the napkin math" to come up with the 25 percent debt increase figure.

"210 years, 5 trillion. 8 years under Bush, now 10t. 8 years under Obama, now 20t. 4 years under Trump, now 28t," Jolly wrote. "COVID was an amplifier of 3t, but the pattern continued regardless."

However, it appears that Jolly was using figures from the end of Trump's presidency in 2021, when the debt was at $28.1 trillion, and then rounded up the debt when he entered office in 2017 to $20 trillion, giving an increase of $8 trillion under Trump.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-national-us-debt-1774764
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/cost-of-trump-tax-cuts-4586645