unaltered shots (Page 2): Agreed. Doesnt take much to outshine 99% of whatz posted in the Gallery, so lets see them SOOC pix shiny brightly.

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R.G. wrote:

What Paul said. If SOOC is so wonderful they should be able to stand their own ground when compared side-by-side with edited photos. Any superiority that they may have should be self-evident and they shouldn't need a special section to draw attention to how much better they are.

Agreed. Doesnt take much to outshine 99% of whatz posted in the Gallery, so lets see them SOOC pix shiny brightly.

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larryepage wrote:

Just as a comment...you will find that the vocal majority here are quite hostile to the notion that it is possible to achieve worthy results directly from the camera (read that as "any camera).
You will get the best results by posting such images without comment or distinguishing notes. When responses come back positive, you can later inform that no processing was done.

Is in-camera processing considered SOOC ?

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

User ID wrote:

Is in-camera processing considered SOOC ?

I consider it so. Otherwise, why pay all that money for cameras that can do it.

And the capabilities are pretty great. After our earlier discussion, I went back and looked at the difference in what my D200 offered in-camera against what my newer cameras can do. Huge difference. Moved me a lot closer to your thinking about the D200.

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CHG_CANON wrote:

A camera sees the world differently than the human eye, so who cares what the camera saw?

Cameras see things photographically. No one cares what some human operator mistakenly thinks they saw. Are we not Photographers ?

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DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

bigruckus wrote:

I am fairly new at this site and am just curious as to whether or not there is a section for unaltered shots with maybe the exception of cropping? Thanks.

Cropping can alter the composition but I don't consider it altering the image. Alteration is usually concerned with exposure, contrast, white balance, things like that. Photoshop used to add or subtract things in the image is transmogrification.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Longshadow wrote:

Not that I am aware.

If they did that, someone would probably suggest a section for each editor out there.......

Isn't cropping altered?

Bill_de Loc: US

srg wrote:

I think we have many SOOCERS here, especially the ones who just like to press the shutter button many many times. And then force me to use my scroller to exhaustion.

Force you???

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Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

User ID wrote:

Nope. Its like cutting a matt.

It doesn't make the original scene a smaller frame of view.
So I can crop out stuff and change the whole feeling/meaning of the original image.
Interesting how that works.

Bill_de Loc: US

larryepage wrote:

Just as a comment...you will find that the vocal majority here are quite hostile to the notion that it is possible to achieve worthy results directly from the camera (read that as "any camera).
You will get the best results by posting such images without comment or distinguishing notes. When responses come back positive, you can later inform that no processing was done.

Good thinking!

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Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

bigruckus wrote:

I am fairly new at this site and am just curious as to whether or not there is a section for unaltered shots with maybe the exception of cropping? Thanks.

I think most of the images posted on the site are camera generated JPEGs with little or no editing.

Welcome aboard.

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

larryepage wrote:

Just as a comment...you will find that the vocal majority here are quite hostile to the notion that it is possible to achieve worthy results directly from the camera (read that as "any camera).
You will get the best results by posting such images without comment or distinguishing notes. When responses come back positive, you can later inform that no processing was done.

That is not at all true. Why make trouble on a thread started by a new member?

Processing is done on all digital images. Some prefer to let the camera do the processing. That is their choice.

Any image you post will be judged by the image, and no one even need know your process.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Longshadow wrote:

Not that I am aware.

If they did that, someone would probably suggest a section for each editor out there.......

Isn't cropping altered?

There is no such thing as an unaltered image. Minimally processed, yes, but just developing the raw data or exposed film is an alteration of sorts.

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

CamB wrote:

If you are new to this here is something to think ... (show quote)

I don't think any of that is true, is it?

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Blenheim Orange wrote:

That is not at all true. Why make trouble on a thread started by a new member?

Processing is done on all digital images. Some prefer to let the camera do the processing. That is their choice.

Any image you post will be judged by the image, and no one even need know your process.

Bill_de Loc: US

Blenheim Orange wrote:

That is not at all true. Why make trouble on a thread started by a new member?

If you have followed Larry for any amount of time, you should know that Larry likes to speak for the majority. What majority that is, he never explained.

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