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Jan 3, 2024 19:47:30   #
neillaubenthal
 
Klickitatdave wrote:
Not to mention that the launch would have to go off on schedule without any delays or the experience would be disappointing. Moon without the rocket, rocket without the moon, sky without the moon or rocket. Maybe the delay would be long enough to adjust for it but still, that would have to be an exercise in demanding, last-minute, precise calculations and physical adjustments.


I’ve watched many a SpaceX launch on there web…and there have been plenty of them that had an instantaneous launch window such that any delay would scrub the launch. It all depends on the orbit you’re aiming for and the window through all the other satellites ypu need to hit…sometimes there is no window of time for the launch.

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Jan 4, 2024 11:16:16   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
hj wrote:
Is this photographically possible to have the rocket and moon in sharp focus with one shutter click, or is it an overlay with two pics?


The photographers name seems to be across the Moon only, and not across the rocket, indicating a composite. Hard to tell for sure, but looks that way to me.

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Jan 5, 2024 20:20:48   #
Scouser Loc: British Columbia
 
hj wrote:
Is this photographically possible to have the rocket and moon in sharp focus with one shutter click, or is it an overlay with two pics?


In took this shot in 2015, not even aware that a full moon was around. I was out on my back deck and saw a hint of the moon low in the left sky. I dashed in, grabbed my D90 and tripod, guessed at a few settings, and took half a dozen quick exposures.
The lens was a 70/300mm Nikkor which I set at 300mm, f13, 1/200th, and she was just a dim glow in the right sky by the time I had caught my breath.
Given that the trees are just over a 1/4 mile away, and the moon is almost a 1/4 million miles away, what could I have done to improve the lousy focus?. I am sure I could do better if the damn thing would just stop moving.
This was straight-out-of-camera and I have no PP programmes or experience.
Any suggestions would be welcome, but don't ask me to spend any money!


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Jan 6, 2024 07:35:23   #
Vaun's photography Loc: Bonney Lake, WA
 
Whether it is a single photo or a composite, it is interesting.

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Jan 6, 2024 10:33:11   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Very difficult to line up, and even have access to a place to shoot from. A 300mm lens could get both in focus, then crop in. These type photos are usually just skillful composites, but if by chance the photographer really did get this in one snap, kudos to him!


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Jan 6, 2024 19:26:24   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
frankraney wrote:
The photographers name seems to be across the Moon only, and not across the rocket, indicating a composite. Hard to tell for sure, but looks that way to me.


Take a look again, and this time enlarge the image and you will clearly make out that the writing is indeed on top of the rocket also.

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Jan 12, 2024 10:43:54   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
JD750 wrote:
It's possible but timing is difficult, and critical, and the rocket just happened to go across the moon during that launch? A fast shutter speed would be needed to prevent motion blur and to prevent the moon from blowing out. This would make the rocket a silhouette, so I suspect this is a composition of more than one image.


There are apps that can predict where the moon will be in relation to the subject you want to capture that will help to determine where you have to be to get the shot you want. Then it’s just a matter of burst mode. It’s not all "just luck".

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Jan 12, 2024 10:58:26   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
gvarner wrote:
There are apps that can predict where the moon will be in relation to the subject you want to capture that will help to determine where you have to be to get the shot you want. Then it’s just a matter of burst mode. It’s not all "just luck".
Yep the moon is predictable. What about the rocket? Do you think it will follow an exact path and how do you determine what that path is?

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Jan 15, 2024 02:03:58   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
hj wrote:
Is this photographically possible to have the rocket and moon in sharp focus with one shutter click, or is it an overlay with two pics?


Seems rather pointless to discuss and debate someone else's image who is it seems not an UHH member that has no EXIF data. Might just ask someone in the Astronomy Section if the event could have even occurred and be captured on that date (12/29/23?). The Full Moon was December 26-27, I checked. Was there a launch and a full moon consistent with the launch site / pad. Some people follow these things? For me, these days if it looks too good (improbable), it probably is Photoshop and/or AI.

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Jan 15, 2024 02:05:02   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
JD750 wrote:
Yep the moon is predictable. What about the rocket? Do you think it will follow an exact path and how do you determine what that path is?



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Jan 15, 2024 09:10:50   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
JD750 wrote:
Yep the moon is predictable. What about the rocket? Do you think it will follow an exact path and how do you determine what that path is?


Rockets follow very well-defined paths at launch...at least on those occasions when everything goes as intended.

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Jan 15, 2024 09:17:32   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Seems rather pointless to discuss and debate someone else's image who is it seems not an UHH member that has no EXIF data. Might just ask someone in the Astronomy Section if the event could have even occurred and be captured on that date (12/29/23?). The Full Moon was December 26-27, I checked. Was there a launch and a full moon consistent with the launch site / pad. Some people follow these things? For me, these days if it looks too good (improbable), it probably is Photoshop and/or AI.
Seems rather pointless to discuss and debate someo... (show quote)


Yes...there was a well-publicized launch of an important rocket on the night of the full moon. I received several invitations from NASA to attend. There is nothing preventing this from being an actual exposure other than an unhealthy dose of uninformed skepticism. Of course, there is nothing preventing it from being a well-executed composite, either.

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Jan 15, 2024 10:40:00   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
larryepage wrote:
Rockets follow very well-defined paths at launch...at least on those occasions when everything goes as intended.
There are many variables that affect the exact track of a rocket. Wind being only one. You know exactly where it starts, and you kinda know where you end up, but the path in-between can vary. Is that variance more than the size of the moon in arc-seconds? That would depend on the altitude at which the crossing occurred. Very low to the ground much less variance in the rocket's exact location.

So a photographer trying to get this in camera would be greatly aided by a moon close to the horizon, just above the launch tower. NASA doesn't plan launches based on the moon position relative to the horizon so there is some luck needed there.

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Jan 15, 2024 16:41:45   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
JD750 wrote:
Yep the moon is predictable. What about the rocket? Do you think it will follow an exact path and how do you determine what that path is?


The rocket is also predictable, and flies on a known path.

The problem is getting on the grounds. Without that it is almost impossible to get shots like this. Not too many places to set up.

I worked at the Cape for several years and could never get a shot like this. This is A good shot but I have no idea how he got it

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