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Jan 14, 2024 13:28:45   #
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MrBob wrote:
Naw, No rattles here... But the quality of this one tempts me into giving one of their ART series a spin.

IIRC, Merrill sensors need no demosaicing so results from a fine lens will really impress. If you put an Art lens on a non Merrill camera I assume it will be sharp, but I wonder if it can favorably impress you when its compared to Merrill sensor images.

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Jan 14, 2024 14:01:21   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
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The Merrill should really show off that lens at its best. Beats me why the IF rattles, cuz Ive got several IF Sigmas that do not rattle, and none are from the premium line up. Does the lens in question rattle even during ordinary casual handling or do you really hafta "shake it to see if anything rattles" like some sort of homebrewed mechanical quality assessment ? Does it truly rattle, or is it only just a gentle soft "clunk thump" sound ?

Ken Rockwell likes to shake test lenses and almost always reports only a slight clicking from the iris blades.
The Merrill should really show off that lens at it... (show quote)


These 3 particular Art/EX lenses all have the floating lens innards that after the camera is turned on, do not rattle- at that point the lens is powered up and that floating element is ready to focus as the camera tells it to.
“Clunk, Thump” is quite accurate!

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Jan 14, 2024 14:47:26   #
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yorkiebyte wrote:
These 3 particular Art/EX lenses all have the floating lens innards that after the camera is turned on, do not rattle- at that point the lens is powered up and that floating element is ready to focus as the camera tells it to.
“Clunk, Thump” is quite accurate!

As I mentioned, my Sigmas are IF but do not "rattle". (You call IF "floating element".) But its reassuring that the "rattle" in question is really just "clunk thump". I wouldnt be upset to encounter a "clunk thump" in a somewhat inexpensive lens. OTOH if a lens really truly *rattled*, I would definitely return it.

I just went and shook quite hard my Sigmas and an AFS VR Nikkor. All were silent. All are primes. Then I shook hard a few zooms and did get very slight noises. Maybe their OIS ?

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Jan 14, 2024 14:58:33   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
From: https://m.dpreview.com/articles/4606181052/field-test-sigma-dn-lenses

“ When the lenses are loose, or attached to a camera that isn't switched on, they clunk quite alarmingly when tipped upside down, like one of those child's toys that moos and has a cow on the side. I can only assume that is the focusing group sliding back and forth, because as soon as the camera is switched on the group comes under control and, reassuringly, the clunking disappears.”

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Jan 14, 2024 14:59:25   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
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As I mentioned, my Sigmas are IF but do not "rattle". (You call IF "floating element".) But its reassuring that the "rattle" in question is really just "clunk thump". I wouldnt be upset to encounter a "clunk thump" in a somewhat inexpensive lens. OTOH if a lens really truly *rattled*, I would definitely return it.

I just went and shook quite hard my Sigmas and an AFS VR Nikkor. All were silent. All are primes. Then I shook hard a few zooms and did get very slight noises. Maybe their OIS ?
As I mentioned, my Sigmas are IF but do not "... (show quote)


Totally screwed up “Quote Reply”
Oops…. I won’t call myself smart…. not even kidding…. Just ask my kids….

My Sigma 30mm f1.4 EX DC (a DX-only lens - pre ART) also has NO rattles or clunks...very solid like a brick. Weighs like one also!

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Jan 14, 2024 22:54:28   #
radiojohn
 
What lenses fit your new full frame camera. I know 4/3 do not, but about the older, larger mount? Q410

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