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Jan 14, 2024 21:36:22   #
rcarol
 
Longshadow wrote:
Curious - What method of power generation do they plan to implement to acquire the additional electrical requirements?


As of the moment, it appears that California really has no master plan other than to shut down petroleum and natural gas from being used by the consumer. The last nuclear plant in California was scheduled to be shut down but was given a reprieve because they have nothing to replace the loss in energy production that would result from shutting down this plant. California doesn't care about being right, they only care about being first. If you are thinking about moving to California, think twice. This state is not what it used to be. Admittedly, our weather is beautiful most of the year. The sun shines often and fortunately Governor Newsom hasn't figured a way to turn it off. However, he and his cronies are working diligently to find ways to charge consumers for using sun power. As an example, if you have a solar system and are connected to the grid, there is now a charge for doing so. The logic being that since you are generating your own electricity, you are depriving the electrical producers from profiting because you are selling energy back to the producers rather than buying energy from them. Sad!

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Jan 14, 2024 21:40:43   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
Information on EVs. For EVs to be effective, the source of power has to be renewable, too. There will likely be many improvements over time for vehicles, batteries, and power source. EVs are in their infancy. Don't let the URL fool you:

https://www.fool.com/research/largest-ev-companies/

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Jan 14, 2024 21:40:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rcarol wrote:
Again, Google is your friend.

I just thought you knew and could tell me in a nutshell.
I'm not interested in EVs, so I don't need to do the research.
Thanks.

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Jan 14, 2024 21:42:22   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Lots of things with EV's to consider.

Toyota took a different approach and claims their "Solid-state EV battery tech breakthrough could offer +900 miles driving range".

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Jan 14, 2024 21:44:10   #
rcarol
 
Longshadow wrote:
I just thought you knew and could tell me in a nutshell.
I'm not interested in EVs, so I don't need to do the research.
Thanks.


Sorry, I didn't need to be snippy. I've read some on this issue but I don't remember enough of what I read to pass it onto the forum. I'll try to do some research.

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Jan 14, 2024 21:47:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rcarol wrote:
Sorry, I didn't need to be snippy. I've read some on this issue but I don't remember enough of what I read to pass it onto the forum. I'll try to do some research.

No need to bother.

I've never had to have maintenance done on any electrical systems.
If you're referring to the motor, that's mechanical.

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Jan 14, 2024 21:47:20   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
Longshadow wrote:
I'm not interested in EVs, so I don't need to do the research.


Like it or not, they may be your vehicle in the future.

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Jan 14, 2024 21:52:08   #
rcarol
 
Longshadow wrote:
I just thought you knew and could tell me in a nutshell.
I'm not interested in EVs, so I don't need to do the research.
Thanks.


I stand corrected. Very little maintenance is required on the electrical system of a hybrid vehicle. Most work on the electrical system will be a result of component failure or wear such as the battery requiring replacement at some point in time.

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Jan 14, 2024 21:53:56   #
rcarol
 
Longshadow wrote:
No need to bother.

I've never had to have maintenance done on any electrical systems.
If you're referring to the motor, that's mechanical.


I was including the motor.

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Jan 14, 2024 22:01:30   #
jimkolt Loc: Sun City, AZ
 
We have a Chevy Bolt and really like it. We don't go far and have put only 11,000 miles on it in 2 years. Charge it at home about once a week. Minimal impact on our electric bill. I probably would rent a car if I was going on a long trip, but wouldn't want a gas car for daily use.

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Jan 14, 2024 22:06:49   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Dikdik wrote:
Like it or not, they may be your vehicle in the future.

I will put it off as long as possible.

What would be nice is wireless charging in parking lots.....

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Jan 14, 2024 22:14:06   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
fourlocks wrote:
During the ice age, the average global temperature was 46 degrees. That’s about 9 degrees colder than the start of the 20th century. While it took the last 24,000 years to warm up those 9 degrees, it’s taken only 150 years to warm up another 2 degrees. Global warming wouldn’t be a problem if it rose at a natural rate but now it’s increasing so fast that we and the rest of the plants and animals don’t have time to adapt.


Most of the temperature increase in the last 150 years occurred prior to 1940 when energy usage was a minor fraction of what it is today. How do you explain that.

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Jan 14, 2024 22:27:24   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
Longshadow wrote:
What would be nice is wireless charging in parking lots.....


I think Sweden was looking at electrifying the roadways.

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Jan 14, 2024 22:29:12   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
Reuss Griffiths wrote:
Most of the temperature increase in the last 150 years occurred prior to 1940 when energy usage was a minor fraction of what it is today. How do you explain that.


Not correct... there is a direct correlation between CO2 content of the atmosphere and earth temperature, and most of the CO2 increase has happened since 1950.





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Jan 14, 2024 22:38:51   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
Retina wrote:
The answer is to make up for each step's losses by injecting energy in subsidy form supplied by a centrally coordinated taxpayer network. Everyone contributes a little and the last stage collects. Think of it as a monetary perpetual motion machine.


Dirtfarmer is absolutely correct that some energy is lost every time one form of energy is converted to another. It's called entropy and is described in the 2nd law of thermodynamics. And contrary to Retina's comment above, it's the reason there are no perpetual motion machines. A simple hypothetical example would be if you drove a vehicle powered by diesel fuel 100 miles, if you converted that amount of diesel fuel into electricity, it would only power a similar sized EV about 80-90 miles. If your overall goal is to limit the amount of CO2 produced, it would make sense to drive the diesel-powered vehicle and produce less CO2. Today, the only power source capable of producing enough energy to meet our projected needs is nuclear. Fat chance of getting that past our environmentalists. We would be far better off using our fossil fuels and finding better technology to limit the amount of CO2 like carbon capture and other promising developments.

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