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Jan 14, 2024 20:35:49   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
User ID wrote:
Never thought about it but, yes, the 600 was out of sequence. I guess since the name was unused and available they just built a camera to use it. Mostly nobody cared about the 600 or 610 anywho. They never really caught on like the 750 did.
Nobody except Nikon understands Nikons model naming numbering system.

D750 is a great camera. D600 was plagued buy an unusually heavy oil spray problem when first introduced. (All DSLRs spray drops of oil some spray more than others). Nikon corrected the problem but the damage was done the camera had a bad reputation and sales never recovered.

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Jan 14, 2024 20:42:30   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JD750 wrote:
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.... The on/off switch has a finite life I try to extend it when possible.

Technically, yes it does. Just like the ignition switch on your car, wall switches, ... .
More that 1,000() and you'll probably replace the camera before the on-off switch goes bad.
When was the last time you had an on-off switch go bad on anything?

I had a 3-way lamp switch go bad once. Other than that, nothing in 50 years that I can remember.
I'm not worried about the switch in the slightest.

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Jan 14, 2024 20:48:21   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Longshadow wrote:
…When was the last time you had an on-off switch go bad on anything?
I have plenty of switches in my life.

On my D7000 it got sticky and difficult to operate.

Mechanical stuff wears out faster than the electronic stuff.

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Jan 14, 2024 20:49:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JD750 wrote:
on my D7000 it got sticky and difficult to operate.

Bummer.
Looks like you got a bad one.
Or a poor design.

My one camera is 12+ years old.
Switch works just fine.
And I always turn it off when not using it within 15-30 minutes.
My other camera is electronic on-off.

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Jan 14, 2024 21:11:48   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Longshadow wrote:
Technically, yes it does. Just like the ignition switch on your car, wall switches, ... .
More that 1,000() and you'll probably replace the camera before the on-off switch goes bad.
When was the last time you had an on-off switch go bad on anything?

I had a 3-way lamp switch go bad once. Other than that, nothing in 50 years that I can remember.
I'm not worried about the switch in the slightest.



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Jan 14, 2024 21:13:39   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
JD750 wrote:
Nobody except Nikon understands Nikons model naming numbering system.

D750 is a great camera. D600 was plagued buy an unusually heavy oil spray problem when first introduced. (All DSLRs spray drops of oil some spray more than others). Nikon corrected the problem but the damage was done the camera had a bad reputation and sales never recovered.


Perhaps all your DSLRs sprayed oil but none of mine ever did.
Show a technical paper stating ALL DSLRs spray oil.

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Jan 14, 2024 21:18:57   #
User ID
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Interesting as I NEVER had a mirror throw ANY oil or dust on my sensors.
And yes if it did I would have quickly noticed.
On occasion after a beach day and changing lenses I would get something on the sensor but easily cleaned it off my self. But outside of those 3 times it never got messed up.
Was there something wrong with your camera? I never heard of people before making a complaint of this issue here or elsewhere.

Uh huh. JD750 should not have generalized like that. The oil problem was only ever two specific models. As to mirrors and dust, thaz just pure UHH Classical Mythology. Everyone knows, by experience, not by forum factoids, that SLRs are almost immune to sensor dust, especially as compared with EVF cameras.

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Jan 14, 2024 21:21:36   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
JD750 wrote:
i noted shutter count as a possible trade and many have assumed I was worried but in fact it seems like a very small issue and I will happily trade it. But interesting to see the responses.

FYI I turn my camera on and leave it on until I’m done shooting. If I’m hiking or street walking with time between shots the camera sleeps between shots. The on/off switch has a finite life I try to extend it when possible.


I am guessing that you try and not use your shutter release either as it will likely wear out along with your on and off switch..

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Jan 14, 2024 21:31:56   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
User ID wrote:
Uh huh. JD750 should not have generalized like that. The oil problem was only ever two specific models. As to mirrors and dust, thaz just pure UHH Classical Mythology. Everyone knows, by experience, not by forum factoids, that SLRs are almost immune to sensor dust, especially as compared with EVF cameras.



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Jan 14, 2024 21:44:41   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Perhaps all your DSLRs sprayed oil but none of mine ever did.
Show a technical paper stating ALL DSLRs spray oil.

Mine never did either.

I guess since the physical possibility exists, it's worth worrying about?
Maybe the oil seals are shot.

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Jan 15, 2024 08:27:51   #
GLSmith Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
Typically my work is outside at racetracks (dirty/dusty environment), or towards the ocean beaches..(salt air, sand driven by wind)....YES I have my sensor shield enabled...If for any reason, I am forced to change lenses, then I have an added layer of protection

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Jan 15, 2024 10:36:36   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
Some digital cameras have a sensor shield (and it looks a like the shutter) that can be enabled to close at power off or alternately to stay open at power off. On some cameras the default is OPEN.

Those of you who have cameras with such options or have strong opinions about such a feature, please post your thoughts. I will start.

I wonder why the default state is "shield open at power off"?

I think a sensor shield is good when changing lenses, however does the shield need to close every time the camera is turned off, when not changing lenses? If the shield really is the shutter, then that probably adds to the shutter count.

The shield does not relieve the user of adhering to proper lens changing hygiene.
Some digital cameras have a sensor shield (and it ... (show quote)


In my experience, lack of a sensor shield is a non-issue. If you get dust in the camera, it will be attracted to the sensor eventually, because the sensor is statically charged when the camera is on. If you change lenses in a dusty atmosphere, you are very likely to get dust in the camera. If you leave the camera turned on when changing lenses, shame on you! The sensor WILL suck dust out of the air.

Dust, dirt, etc. can be minimized by keeping a CLEAN lens or a CLEAN body cap on the camera at all times when not changing lenses. I hold mine lens mount down when changing lenses. I turn off the camera when changing lenses. I enable the sensor cleaning vibrator, so it runs every time the camera is turned on and turned off. I seldom find dust on my sensor.

About 20 years ago, I learned how to clean a sensor properly. In the days of dSLRs, that was a frequent need, because the reflex mirror knocks bits of foam and lube onto the sensor when the shutter opens.

There is no moving mirror in a mirrorless camera. In my experience, despite the use of a mechanical shutter for most event photos, my Lumix sensor stays cleaner, much longer. When I use the camera on my copy stand, I use the electronic shutter, so there are NO moving parts to move air or dust or create metal shavings or lube droplets (or vibrations). I copied 176 rolls of 36 exposure film to digital over the course of several weeks, well over 6000 frames, and the sensor stayed clean.

User habits and dSLR designs are more likely to lead to a dirty sensor than the presence or absence of a sensor shield. It's nice to have, but not a necessity.

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Jan 15, 2024 10:41:18   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
In my experience, lack of a sensor shield is a non-issue. If you get dust in the camera, it will be attracted to the sensor eventually, because the sensor is statically charged when the camera is on. If you change lenses in a dusty atmosphere, you are very likely to get dust in the camera. If you leave the camera turned on when changing lenses, shame on you! The sensor WILL suck dust out of the air.

Dust, dirt, etc. can be minimized by keeping a CLEAN lens or a CLEAN body cap on the camera at all times when not changing lenses. I hold mine lens mount down when changing lenses. I turn off the camera when changing lenses. I enable the sensor cleaning vibrator, so it runs every time the camera is turned on and turned off. I seldom find dust on my sensor.

About 20 years ago, I learned how to clean a sensor properly. In the days of dSLRs, that was a frequent need, because the reflex mirror knocks bits of foam and lube onto the sensor when the shutter opens.

There is no moving mirror in a mirrorless camera. In my experience, despite the use of a mechanical shutter for most event photos, my Lumix sensor stays cleaner, much longer. When I use the camera on my copy stand, I use the electronic shutter, so there are NO moving parts to move air or dust or create metal shavings or lube droplets (or vibrations). I copied 176 rolls of 36 exposure film to digital over the course of several weeks, well over 6000 frames, and the sensor stayed clean.

User habits and dSLR designs are more likely to lead to a dirty sensor than the presence or absence of a sensor shield. It's nice to have, but not a necessity.
In my experience, lack of a sensor shield is a non... (show quote)

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Jan 15, 2024 11:55:16   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Bill_de wrote:
If I remember correctly the D700 series had the oil problem.
I never had the issue with any of my Nikon DSLS. My oldest 2, still in use, are a D7200 and D4s

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D600 had the problem. I have a D610, no problem!

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Jan 15, 2024 14:51:35   #
jlocke Loc: Austin, TX
 
It's a little unnerving when you take the lens off my Z8 and the sensor is RIGHT THERE, staring at you. I much prefer the shield covering the front of the sensor.

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