Electric Cars
Jan 14, 2024 00:34:02 #
twb930s wrote:
I could consider a Hybrid, but never an EV - unless I can charge it outside 100 feet from the garage and house.
Having seen a LiPo fire up close and personal and how hard it is to extinguish, I would never charge an EV with a LiPo battery in my garage or near my house.
Jan 14, 2024 00:42:49 #
rplain1 wrote:
I have never seen an electric car on fire. Seen plenty of gasoline cars on fire, though.
You haven’t watched the news much then.
Jan 14, 2024 01:00:15 #
Longshadow wrote:
What kind of petroleum?
Last I knew, hydrogen is currently made by electrolysis of water or steam-methane reforming of Natural Gas.
How is petroleum used?
Last I knew, hydrogen is currently made by electrolysis of water or steam-methane reforming of Natural Gas.
How is petroleum used?
Google has the answer.
Jan 14, 2024 05:23:13 #
Artcameraman
Loc: Springfield NH
Yes, charging or overcharging can be dangerous. But that's me. Cheers.
Jan 14, 2024 05:34:12 #
Sales of EV's are rising exponentially in the U.K., and I think in lot of the rest of Europe as well.
Considering one myself, love the motor I've got (Subaru 2.0D Outback) but Mrs. N. doesn't move so easily these days and needs a few more short distance lifts - not good for any engine let alone a diesel.
Maybe the new VW Tiguan ehybrid will suit my needs.
Considering one myself, love the motor I've got (Subaru 2.0D Outback) but Mrs. N. doesn't move so easily these days and needs a few more short distance lifts - not good for any engine let alone a diesel.
Maybe the new VW Tiguan ehybrid will suit my needs.
Jan 14, 2024 06:11:13 #
We enjoyed our Fusion hybrid for a 3 year lease, but prefer our 4 gasoline powered cars. As long as the earth has it, we should be using the oil. Other electric technologies without the current (pun intended!) problems with lithium and charging might be the routes to go.
Jan 14, 2024 07:27:40 #
sippyjug104 wrote:
...The average luxury cruise ship burns 80,000 gal... (show quote)
While a lot of that is probably true, (I don't keep track of the amount of fuel my cruise ship uses) there are a LOT more cars and trucks in operation than there are cruise ships. Adding cargo ships makes it closer but I don't have a number for those and using trucks to deliver goods to the USA from China is cost prohibitive because the salt water does a number on the engines.
Part of the answer will lie in improvements to public transportation so Joe can get to work and back without the expensive car.
Jan 14, 2024 07:27:54 #
BebuLamar wrote:
In fact with all these bad news about EV I think I will get an EV if I can get it cheap.
getting one cheap is just the start, keeping it is where the true expense is.
Jan 14, 2024 07:38:07 #
Morry
Loc: Palm Springs, CA
jerryc41 wrote:
Boy, there is a lot of bad news online about EVs. ... (show quote)
It took many years before gasoline cars completely overtook the horse and buggy for road transportation for similar reasons. Gas stations were probably not as conveniently located in the early days . . . but we eventually overcame that and gasoline powered cars became the norm. I believe this will again happen when electric charging stations conveniently located become the norm. The "bugs" in some of the early electric cars will be fixed. And "hopefully" all this effort will result in cleaner air and environment.
Jan 14, 2024 07:39:36 #
ImageCreator wrote:
The expense only escalates after the purchase. Good luck.
Because our tax dollars are being used to supplement the manufacture and reduce the purchase price of the EVs.
Folks better off $$$ than many of us are receiving our tax $$$ to purchase experimental playtoys partially produced by child slave labor with little infrastructure available to support it.
When a weapon system, think aircraft carrier, is presented to Congress for funding all of the costs, from manufacture to the end of life must be accounted for before the first ship (weapon) is purchased.
You have to ask yourself why are the true costs being actively hidden.
This whole EV thing makes me . . . .
Sad,
JimmyT Sends
Jan 14, 2024 07:41:14 #
rcarol wrote:
Google has the answer.
Google has lots of answers...
Not all are from credible sources.
I trust Wikipedia more.
Can you quote your source? With a link?
While there are many methods, the predominant ones are electrolysis and steam reforming of natural gas.:
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_production[url]
Jan 14, 2024 07:47:34 #
TriX wrote:
Still, after 442K miles, the cost per mile isn’t bad if that was the original engine.
🤣
Jan 14, 2024 07:59:32 #
Morry
Loc: Palm Springs, CA
My new 2012 Prius hybrid came with the 150,000 mile standard California warrantee. I drove this car over 72,000 miles without spending a nickel on repairs except to replace a tire that had been damaged by a piece of metal on the road. Sold that car and replaced it with a 2021 Honda Accord EX-L hybrid. I only have about 18,000 miles on it and it's performed flawlessly needing only oil changes so far. I will continue buying hybrids until the charging station for electric cars problem is fixed. I'm almost 90 years old so I am not sure that I have another new car in my future. As far as hybrids are concerned I think a good time to change cars is before the big battery gives trouble. Priuses used as cabs are from the beginning showing remarkable long life and further these batteries can be rebuilt for far less than the cost of a new battery . . . for those that wish to do that. Incidentaly my 2021 Honda Hybrid Accord is giving me so far a total average of 40.1 MPG. And I might note that I could increase this MPG mileage if I drive with the intent of maximizing gas mileage. EPA gas average mileage on this car is 48 MPG. All my driving is around town driving in traffic.
Jan 14, 2024 08:07:45 #
I don't watch Scotty Kilmer's videos anymore, but he has one about over 92,000 people killed in EVs. That sounds like a ridiculous figure, but you can watch the video if you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4M-59gVwys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4M-59gVwys
Jan 14, 2024 08:13:07 #
Chadp
Loc: Virginia Beach
rcarol wrote:
Are you sure about that? I recall reading that a portion of the energy from the battery is used to heat the battery to bring them up to optimal temperature.
They work. But their capacity and thus their range is greatly reduced as temperature drops. I have a friend with an EV who can’t run the heat in his car on his daily commute if temps are below 30F. If he does then he won’t have enough capacity to get to work and back.
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