AI Photo Art
Jan 12, 2024 12:00:35 #
AzPicLady wrote:
It will be interesting to see if and when people start using the correct terminology. Accuracy doesn't seem to be in great demand these days ... telling the viewer it's a photograph is what's not correct, because that's simply not true...
Jan 12, 2024 12:00:52 #
Calling it an "art photo" implies that it's a modified photograph - which it isn't. The term "photograph" refers specifically to images produced by some sort of photographic equipment such as a camera. This is an image which was generated by a computer. Using AI to generate an image has nothing to do with photography. It is a product of creative art and the right category for it would be computer graphics since we are referring to an image which has been created from scratch.
Jan 12, 2024 12:17:09 #
The people at Chat GPT just argued forcefully that they cannot survive without access to Copyrighted images.
They are arguing that their use of copyrighted images is allowed under their interpretation of the 'Fair Use' provision.
They are silent on the idea of sharing the millions they are making with the creators of the work.
The simple fact is, that each use of AI apps to create 'pictures' directly contributes to them and rewards what is essentially Theft of other people's work.
They are arguing that their use of copyrighted images is allowed under their interpretation of the 'Fair Use' provision.
They are silent on the idea of sharing the millions they are making with the creators of the work.
The simple fact is, that each use of AI apps to create 'pictures' directly contributes to them and rewards what is essentially Theft of other people's work.
Jan 12, 2024 12:17:22 #
R.G. wrote:
Calling it an "art photo" implies that i... (show quote)
Actually the factor that makes it a photograph is that it is an image created by the action of light on a light sensitive material. Photograms are considered photographs, so they don't even require a camera.
Jan 12, 2024 12:20:52 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
Text based AI imagery is not photography. It is its own valid form of image creation, but calling it a "photo" is not accurate. There are AI based apps which are used to process actual photographs, and they are a part of photography.
Why is it so hard for people to understand this?
Jan 12, 2024 12:23:12 #
MJPerini wrote:
The people at Chat GPT just argued forcefully that they cannot survive without access to Copyrighted images.
They are arguing that their use of copyrighted images is allowed under their interpretation of the 'Fair Use' provision.
They are silent on the idea of sharing the millions they are making with the creators of the work.
The simple fact is, that each use of AI apps to create 'pictures' directly contributes to them and rewards what is essentially Theft of other people's work.
They are arguing that their use of copyrighted images is allowed under their interpretation of the 'Fair Use' provision.
They are silent on the idea of sharing the millions they are making with the creators of the work.
The simple fact is, that each use of AI apps to create 'pictures' directly contributes to them and rewards what is essentially Theft of other people's work.
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Jan 12, 2024 12:29:48 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
It will be interesting to see if and when people start using the correct terminology. Accuracy doesn't seem to be in great demand these days
Very true! Is it that people are just too lazy to use "correct terminology"?
Jan 12, 2024 12:43:01 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
Actually the factor that makes it a photograph is that it is an image created by the action of light on a light sensitive material. Photograms are considered photographs, so they don't even require a camera.
Also, the camera was invented long before photography in the form of the camera obscura, which projected an image on a surface as an aid to accuracy in drawing and painting. So images produced with a camera aren't necessarily photographs.
Jan 12, 2024 13:15:20 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
It will be interesting to see if and when people start using the correct terminology. Accuracy doesn't seem to be in great demand these days
Thank you! From now on I shall use the term computer graphic. I don't want to upset anyone for a misuse of terms.
Jan 12, 2024 13:22:35 #
AI has no place in "Photography". AI is an "image" that has no reality in fact. AI will have a prominent place, however in image creation.
Ever since Photoshop appeared on the scene 25 years ago the ability to, if you will, falsify photographs became available to any one with a computer and a desire to learn a difficult program. It also added to our vocabulary, that picture had been "Photoshopped" and we who had learned to work in Photoshop announced that fact proudly.
AI now allows one to create impossible images. These images can be stand alone, like the dog in this post which could just be an over processed photograph, or Plato speaking to his students in 400 BC Rome which obviously can't be a photograph but must be an image.
I will leave with a question of my own. Should it be necessary to label an image of something so obviously unlikely as a dragon attacking a castle as AI or is that an insult to the intelligence of the person viewing it?
Ever since Photoshop appeared on the scene 25 years ago the ability to, if you will, falsify photographs became available to any one with a computer and a desire to learn a difficult program. It also added to our vocabulary, that picture had been "Photoshopped" and we who had learned to work in Photoshop announced that fact proudly.
AI now allows one to create impossible images. These images can be stand alone, like the dog in this post which could just be an over processed photograph, or Plato speaking to his students in 400 BC Rome which obviously can't be a photograph but must be an image.
I will leave with a question of my own. Should it be necessary to label an image of something so obviously unlikely as a dragon attacking a castle as AI or is that an insult to the intelligence of the person viewing it?
Jan 12, 2024 13:24:48 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
JohnSwanda wrote:
Actually the factor that makes it a photograph is that it is an image created by the action of light on a light sensitive material. Photograms are considered photographs, so they don't even require a camera.
I think one reason the description tends to be called AI Photography is that painters and others in the art world have already said pretty clearly and vigorously that they will have nothing to do with AI. So the dust from that explosion has settled mostly over the photography world.
Jan 12, 2024 13:59:09 #
Bill Hancock wrote:
Accuracy with terminology has nothing to do with "upsetting anyone." How do we intelligently discuss topics of interest if we're not speaking the same language?Thank you! From now on I shall use the term computer graphic. I don't want to upset anyone for a misuse of terms.
Jan 12, 2024 14:03:40 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Accuracy with terminology has nothing to do with "upsetting anyone." How do we intelligently discuss topics of interest if we're not speaking the same language?
Jan 12, 2024 14:05:02 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
People can create dragons in graphics programs or photo editors without the need for word prompts that let AI do it all....I will leave with a question of my own. Should it be necessary to label an image of something so obviously unlikely as a dragon attacking a castle as AI or is that an insult to the intelligence of the person viewing it?
In UHH specialty sections (such as "Black and White" where the guidelines say selectively colored photos will be removed, or True Macro vs. Close-up, or SmartPhone...), people posting should respect the intent and purpose of that group.
Even Photo Gallery has rules set by owner Admin (though many of those rules are not enforced).
In flickr's Photostream, one can share as much or as little information about their creations as they like. But even flickr has specialty groups with rules, and many of those groups have active managers.
Jan 12, 2024 16:46:44 #
During the Luminar Neo Coffee Break this week, we saw a huge collection of AI done by a photographer who can no longer get out of the house for camera work. She claims she doesn't have a creative nature, but she is very wrong. She created whimsical characters, beautiful landscapes and all manner of beautiful artwork all using AI. I think AI has a place in the art world. When you ask AI to put something on the "canvas", you might get something that needs further adjustment. Other times it is pretty good. I love what some have done with AI. I haven't ventured into it yet, but soon. . .
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