camerapapi wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but why the date of the copyright has to be changed? I have never missed with the copyright of my photos and actually I have never cared.
What is important about it and why should I change it?
To be legal, it must include the year.
DirtFarmer wrote:
Some people are anal about their images and don't want anyone else to use or otherwise claim them. A copyright in the metadata will not prevent that, but it gives notice that someone has laid claim to the image. The date is slightly important by dating the claim because a copyright has a limited lifetime.
If you REALLY don't want anyone to use of claim your images (1) you should register your copyright (there's a fee, of course); and/or (2) you should not present your image to the public. If you register your copyright it's up to you to watch out for someone else using your image and be ready to lawyer up to pursue your claim.
For the hoi polloi, it's not important at all. If you don't derive income from your photos, why should you care?
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It's a level of protection. And I do sell my stuff.
IHH61 wrote:
Absolutely correct on the registration requirement to bring suit in federal court. However having copyright info in the metadata can help and if changed opens up additional penalties.
Hugh
Absolutely correct about federal courts. But I have had local legal issues won just because the copyright was imbedded in the image.
AzPicLady wrote:
To be legal, it must include the year.
Alas, including a symbol has nothing to do with 'legal'.
Symbols like © @ # $ % * & and so forth have nothing to do with registering a US copyright. Registering the copyright of your digital images with the US Copyright office is how one creates a copyright that has legal protections.
All the details and process -- including online processing and payments -- are described in detail as:
https://www.copyright.gov/
SX2002 wrote:
Nikon don't have a date, just the artist and copyright owners name...
Setting a date in Nikon’s is done under the copyright function.
The Date. (From a copyright website)
The copyright date is perhaps greatest trap for the unwary. One of the purposes of the copyright date, under U.S. copyright law, is to assist members of the public in identifying which works are now in the public domain. To do this, a member of the public would take the copyright date appearing in the notice, add to it the number of years of the copyright term, and thereby arrive at a conclusion as to when the copyright would have expired. But what if the material contained in the work was developed in different years? Do you use the oldest date and deprive yourself of those extra few years of copyright protection? Do you use the present date and risk misleading the public that the entire work is protected by copyright starting from that year and ending at the end of copyright term? Such incorrect statements of fact in a copyright notice could lead a court to conclude that no copyright exists in the work as a result.
So what do you do when a work is created or revised over many years? If only one year is to appear in a notice, it should be the oldest year, associated with the oldest of the matter in the work. In other words, if one must err it should be in the direction of omitting newer years, not older years. Another approach is to put a range of years. For example, if the oldest matter in the work dates from 1998 and if the newest matter dates from 2000, the notice might say Copyright 1999 to 2000 followed by the name of the copyright owner.
AzPicLady wrote:
To be legal, it must include the year.
I have heard conflicting information on that. I’ll look into it.
DirtFarmer
Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
Spirit Vision Photography wrote:
The Date. (From a copyright website)
The copyright date is perhaps greatest trap for the unwary. One of the purposes of the copyright date, under U.S. copyright law, is to assist members of the public in identifying which works are now in the public domain. To do this, a member of the public would take the copyright date appearing in the notice, add to it the number of years of the copyright term, and thereby arrive at a conclusion as to when the copyright would have expired. But what if the material contained in the work was developed in different years? Do you use the oldest date and deprive yourself of those extra few years of copyright protection? Do you use the present date and risk misleading the public that the entire work is protected by copyright starting from that year and ending at the end of copyright term? Such incorrect statements of fact in a copyright notice could lead a court to conclude that no copyright exists in the work as a result.
So what do you do when a work is created or revised over many years? If only one year is to appear in a notice, it should be the oldest year, associated with the oldest of the matter in the work. In other words, if one must err it should be in the direction of omitting newer years, not older years. Another approach is to put a range of years. For example, if the oldest matter in the work dates from 1998 and if the newest matter dates from 2000, the notice might say Copyright 1999 to 2000 followed by the name of the copyright owner.
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That sounds like the best argument for setting the current date into your camera so that the date on the copyright note in the metadata is the date that the picture was taken.
I assume that if significant modifications to the image were to be performed in postprocessing the copyright date could be updated for the new image to cover the date it was changed.
SX2002
Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
AzPicLady wrote:
Now that's interesting. A copyright isn't legal if it doesn't have the copyright symbol and the year. I wonder if you can add it.
I know it has no legal clout but if ever there is a dispute about who took the photo, my name is down as the artist and the copyright holder in the Exif data.
I know this can be removed if anyone has the data but I can still always prove that the original was taken by me.
I once found one of my pics on Wikipedia and was listed as England's wildlife pic of the month. It was obviously "stolen" by someone on this site several years ago.
As soon as I sent them the original, it was removed in a matter of seconds.
SX2002 wrote:
I know it has no legal clout but if ever there is a dispute about who took the photo, my name is down as the artist and the copyright holder in the Exif data.
I know this can be removed if anyone has the data but I can still always prove that the original was taken by me.
I once found one of my pics on Wikipedia and was listed as England's wildlife pic of the month. It was obviously "stolen" by someone on this site several years ago.
As soon as I sent them the original, it was removed in a matter of seconds.
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I found one of my images (attached) being used to sell products on E Bay. I notified the user that he was unauthorized to steal and use my image. He didn’t care. Once I notified E Bay of the theft, it was taken down fairly quickly.
bdk
Loc: Sanibel Fl.
good idea, as for copyright.
we had a class on copyright. it was very boring at times but interesting when they started talking about actual cases.
In court everything you can show to prove its your work is a plus.
Copy right on the photo, copyright in the meta data . and of course the fact that you registered it with the office.
I think it was $55.00 to copyright up to 750 photos at a time. ( not too bad considering past prices)
so when some guy sitting in an arm chair tells you to not worry about it, maybe you better talk to someone who actually knows the law. ( thats not me im just passing on info I was told by an attorney in a photography class)
AzPicLady wrote:
Something I usually do forget: Change the date in your copyright info in ALL of your cameras! I did two of them yesterday. I'll do the other two tomorrow. Usually I forget until I have the first set up in LR and have to take the time to change it! Granted, it's easy but it's one more step and time we don't have to spend.
Thanks for the reminder. I try to keep my cameras current and the clocks correct. Whether there is an intent to assert copyright protection or not, there is a long list of reasons why it is a good idea to mark any work created with the creator's name and the date of origin. This was first impressed on me during the first week at my first job (with a large research and manufacturing company) 50 years ago. The validity of doing it has never changed, except perhaps to become even more important.
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SX2002 wrote:
Nikon don't have a date, just the artist and copyright owners name...
you can put whatever you want into the "copyright notice" box, e.g. "copyright John Doe 2024, all rights reserved"
AzPicLady wrote:
Something I usually do forget: Change the date in your copyright info in ALL of your cameras! I did two of them yesterday. I'll do the other two tomorrow. Usually I forget until I have the first set up in LR and have to take the time to change it! Granted, it's easy but it's one more step and time we don't have to spend.
I have a recurring ("every Jan 01") entry in my calendar to make sure I do not forget
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