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Jan 9, 2024 10:16:58   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
jcboy3 wrote:
The nano-texture glass is a matte finish, great for reducing reflections, but it impacts contrast and color accuracy. If you work in an area where you have light sources behind you that will reflect, then I would get the nano-texture glass. I do not have any light sources behind me, so I have nothing reflecting, and thus I bought mine with standard glass.


Great info. I would prefer the standard glass then also

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Jan 9, 2024 10:19:24   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
jdub82 wrote:
My preference leans strongly toward the convenience of my MacBook for editing over a desktop computer. I am no longer using a desktop. The portability is a big advantage. I can take the MacBook with me when traveling if I desire, and easily edit some of my photos during the trip. When at home, I can edit from the comfort of the chair I prefer when using the MacBook for editing. However, I do believe it is a matter of personal preference. If you feel you really need the larger 24" display to adequately view and edit your photos, that may work better for you. Otherwise, I would go with the MacBook.
My preference leans strongly toward the convenienc... (show quote)


Thank you. I agree with that analogy

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Jan 9, 2024 10:25:41   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
My (win10) desktop died about 2 years ago. I limped along on my (win10) laptop (still using it) but then got an Apple Silicon M1 laptop. The old laptop now does the residual windows applications that Apple doesn't support and the new Mac laptop does everything else. I got the 16" screen, which is not quite up to the 21" screen that I had but I moved to smaller quarters also and don't have room to attach the 21" screen to the Mac. When I get more space I will add the 21" screen and have a dual screen system, which I had on the desktop previously. It helps to be able to run both LR and PS on different screens.

You might find the new Apple Silicon laptop to be sufficient for all your needs. When you need a desktop, just put the laptop down and connect the extra monitor.
My (win10) desktop died about 2 years ago. I limpe... (show quote)


Everything you said makes sense. I was wondering if my current iMac could be used as a second monitor for my new MBP.

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Jan 9, 2024 10:27:25   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
I have a M1 16" MBP. My wife has a 13" MBAir M2. She complains about the weight of my MBP. But it's much lighter than my old Win10 16" laptop. And as far as M1/M2 is concerned, it doesn't make any difference to her. I do some computation-heavy apps but for normal use (including LR/PS) I don't think going above M1 would really make a significant difference.

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Jan 9, 2024 10:30:08   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
coolhanduke wrote:
I would go with the MacBook Pro 16”.

I just bought one recently and I like the portability.

Why have 2 units?

Unfortunately for me, mine is an M2 chip and they came out with the M 3 like 2 weeks later.


Don't you hate when that happens? I am leaning towards the 16” and eventually doing away with the iMAC. For now, it's good enough for everything except editing pictures in LR and PS.

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Jan 9, 2024 10:56:10   #
jcboy3
 
GrandmaG wrote:
Everything you said makes sense. I was wondering if my current iMac could be used as a second monitor for my new MBP.


The answer is no. This used to be a capability, at least with early iMacs such as yours, but the ability to do so was removed from the more recent operating systems. First, later model iMacs did not support being used as external monitors, and then they just got rid of the whole thing.

See this article: https://support.apple.com/en-us/105126

This is one of the reasons I don't like iMacs anymore. Sure, they were a relatively inexpensive way to get a computer, but when you get rid of an out of date computer, you have to get rid of a perfectly good and very nice monitor. I had a Late 2015 27-inch iMac Retina 5K. Great monitor, but eventually the MacOS didn't support the computer and I sold it.

And the Mac Mini has solved that issue. I do wish memory and storage was upgradable, so you need to get as much as you can afford when you buy one. However, at least with the latest thunderbolt interfaces, you can get very fast storage; I use an OWC external that stacks on the Mini, provides thunderbolt expansion, has an SSD slot, and a 3.5" hard drive slot. I put a 4TB SSD and 12TB hard drive in it.

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Jan 9, 2024 12:32:53   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
GrandmaG wrote:
My current MBP has a 1 TB SSD that is over half full so I think the new MBP should have a 2 TB SSD. I store my LR catalog and pictures on an external SSD. I think 16 GB Unified memory is enough for now, but more may be needed in the future and I can't add it later. Thank you!


I bought my MacBook Air in 2021, nine months after its release. I intend to keep it until 2026 or 2027. It has 16GB/1TB and the full "unbinned" M1 with 8/8/16 cores. So far, that has been plenty. But I suspect I'll double the memory and storage with whatever I get next. By then it could be an M4 or M5…

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Jan 9, 2024 14:17:09   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
A big thanks to all who responded. As usual, the UglyHedgehog members come through! I have decided to purchase the 16-inch MBP dedicated to pictures, just like I have a printer dedicated to pictures. I'll probably migrate my other apps over to the new MBP though since the current iMAC no longer updates the OS. This fact may be a security issue. Eventually, I may get a larger display.

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Jan 9, 2024 16:38:06   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
GrandmaG wrote:
A big thanks to all who responded. As usual, the UglyHedgehog members come through! I have decided to purchase the 16-inch MBP dedicated to pictures, just like I have a printer dedicated to pictures. I'll probably migrate my other apps over to the new MBP though since the current iMAC no longer updates the OS. This fact may be a security issue. Eventually, I may get a larger display.


I think you will be amazed at the improvement! Enjoy.

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Jan 9, 2024 17:05:21   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
jcboy3 wrote:
The answer is no. This used to be a capability, at least with early iMacs such as yours, but the ability to do so was removed from the more recent operating systems. First, later model iMacs did not support being used as external monitors, and then they just got rid of the whole thing.

See this article: https://support.apple.com/en-us/105126

This is one of the reasons I don't like iMacs anymore. Sure, they were a relatively inexpensive way to get a computer, but when you get rid of an out of date computer, you have to get rid of a perfectly good and very nice monitor. I had a Late 2015 27-inch iMac Retina 5K. Great monitor, but eventually the MacOS didn't support the computer and I sold it.

And the Mac Mini has solved that issue. I do wish memory and storage was upgradable, so you need to get as much as you can afford when you buy one. However, at least with the latest thunderbolt interfaces, you can get very fast storage; I use an OWC external that stacks on the Mini, provides thunderbolt expansion, has an SSD slot, and a 3.5" hard drive slot. I put a 4TB SSD and 12TB hard drive in it.
The answer is no. This used to be a capability, a... (show quote)


I read this article and it looks as if I just missed the cutoff for using my iMac as a display for the new MBP. My iMac is late 2014. That's too bad because the 27-inch Retina 5K monitor is perfectly fine!! I could try to sell it!! I'll be keeping the brand new Magic Mouse I just bought though.

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Jan 10, 2024 17:18:27   #
A. T.
 
GrandmaG wrote:
My iMac is late 2014 and will not update past Big Sur v.11.7.10. Therefore, I can no longer update Lightroom Classic nor use the new features. I also have a MacBook Pro (2016) and it will update to Monterey v.12.7.2 Lightroom is version 13.1 on the MacBook and v.12.5 on the iMac. I can use the new blur feature on the MacBook; but when I open the same picture in the same catalog on the iMac, the effects are not there. I will need to update one of my computers, but which one?

I know Adobe recommends macOS Ventura v.13 and an XDR display. The newest MacBook Pro has a Liquid Retina XDR display but the newest iMAC has a (plain?) Liquid Retina display. Currently, I prefer to edit my photos on the 24-inch screen of the iMAC but I can edit on the MacBook even though the display is smaller. Unfortunately, when comparing a new MacBook vs a new iMAC, you can't compare apples to apples (pun intended). The chip is better in the MacBook but you can get more unified memory for $370 less in the iMac. What is more important? The chip or the memory? Just for clarity, I've included the specs for my 2 choices. Which would you choose? Pease don't try to talk me out of an Apple computer. I HATE the Microsoft OS.

iMAC 24" - $2329.00 (-$120 for 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU and no USB 3 ports)
M3 chip with 8-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
24 GB unified memory (-$200 for 16 GB, but will 16 GB be enough?)
1 TB SSD
2 Thunderbolt 4 ports
2 USB 3 ports
Magic Mouse
Keyboard with numeric pad

MacBook Pro 16"- $2699.00
M3 Pro chip with 12-core CPU, 18-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
18 GB unified memory (+$400 for 36 GB)
1 TB SSD
MagSafe 3 port for power
3 Thunderbolt 4 ports
HDMI port
SDXC card slot
headphone jack
140 W USB-C Power adaptor
My iMac is late 2014 and will not update past Big ... (show quote)


Okay, I was in a very similar situation with my 2017 iMac and had to make a decision and I, like you, will never go back to Microsoft. So, after some chatting with my computer guru who has performed some upgrades on my Macs in the past and visiting the Apple store and looking at what was offered. I decided to go with the Mac Studio Ultra and the Apple Studio Display. I'm 68yrs. old and I'm also old school in that I hate having to change/upgrade computers very 5 to 7 years. So what I decided to do is make a purchase that would be well more than I needed to edit my photos and would buy more years of service. Again, this is a monster computer and display that is very expensive; however, my photography is my passion and worth every dollar spent on the editing equipment. Now that I have had and used the Mac Studio Ultra for about a week, I can tell you that it is by far nothing like anything I have ever used before and I have had three iMacs and two Macbook Pros. If you can afford this setup, I would HIGHLY recommend getting it.....I assure you, you won't regret it. You are more than welcome to contact me at any time if you have questions.

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Jan 10, 2024 18:08:29   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
A. T. wrote:
Okay, I was in a very similar situation with my 2017 iMac and had to make a decision and I, like you, will never go back to Microsoft. So, after some chatting with my computer guru who has performed some upgrades on my Macs in the past and visiting the Apple store and looking at what was offered. I decided to go with the Mac Studio Ultra and the Apple Studio Display. I'm 68yrs. old and I'm also old school in that I hate having to change/upgrade computers very 5 to 7 years. So what I decided to do is make a purchase that would be well more than I needed to edit my photos and would buy more years of service. Again, this is a monster computer and display that is very expensive; however, my photography is my passion and worth every dollar spent on the editing equipment. Now that I have had and used the Mac Studio Ultra for about a week, I can tell you that it is by far nothing like anything I have ever used before and I have had three iMacs and two Macbook Pros. If you can afford this setup, I would HIGHLY recommend getting it.....I assure you, you won't regret it. You are more than welcome to contact me at any time if you have questions.
Okay, I was in a very similar situation with my 20... (show quote)


Thank you for this response. I did order the MacBookPro 16” because I still travel and needed a portable solution, and it has better specs than the iMac. I didn't actually look at the Ultra or mini Mac. I will probably eventually order the Studio Display for working at home. I'm not keeping up 2 computer systems anymore. I agree that the expense is worth it! The new MBP should be my last computer. I'm 74

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Jan 10, 2024 18:15:51   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
GrandmaG wrote:
Thank you for this response. I did order the MacBookPro 16” because I still travel and needed a portable solution, and it has better specs than the iMac. I didn't actually look at the Ultra or mini Mac. I will probably eventually order the Studio Display for working at home. I'm not keeping up 2 computer systems anymore. I agree that the expense is worth it! The new MBP should be my last computer. I'm 74


I'm 84 and my MBP is not my last computer.

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Jan 10, 2024 18:23:59   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I'm 84 and my MBP is not my last computer.


You crack me up! Good attitude!!

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Jan 10, 2024 19:04:20   #
A. T.
 
GrandmaG wrote:
Thank you for this response. I did order the MacBookPro 16” because I still travel and needed a portable solution, and it has better specs than the iMac. I didn't actually look at the Ultra or mini Mac. I will probably eventually order the Studio Display for working at home. I'm not keeping up 2 computer systems anymore. I agree that the expense is worth it! The new MBP should be my last computer. I'm 74


Again, you always get what you pay for and we both know that. We both have more life behind us than in front and it's apparent that photography means quite a bit to you. GET WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD and don't look back. My dear mother once told me that she had gone to a lot of funerals and she never once saw a Brinks truck following the hearse.....get the point? Enjoy your passion to the fullest my friend.

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