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Jan 9, 2024 10:45:28   #
BebuLamar
 
marine73 wrote:
The captain/pilot in command actually has the final say as to whether the aircraft is airworthy regardless of what the company says. If he feels the aircraft is unairworthy based on his reading the maintenance logbook and the corrective actions for discrepancies, he/she should refuse to fly the aircraft. The company is not licensed to say an aircraft is airworthy, only the pitots in command and a licensed maintenance technician can determine the airworthy status of the aircraft and that is what our signature on the maintenance log pages signify.

If an aircraft has and item or system on MEL (minimum equipment list) it will have a time limit in which it must be fixed. If it has 119 days remaining on it if the part or item is available we will troubleshoot and/or replace the item. Common items that are on deferral in the cabin with high deferral times is galley oven and coffee makers.
Short time deferrals may include plugged galley sinks or Lavs and will have a must fix or terminating action from 3 to 5 cycles (flights) if not fixed within that time the aircraft is grounded wherever there last destination was. If maintenance is not available then an EFS (emergency Field service team) is sent from the nearest maintenance base or from a station that has the most experience with that issue.
The captain/pilot in command actually has the fina... (show quote)


I am not familiar with the rules so I am not speaking with authority here. I understand the pilot has the right to refusing flying a plane he deems not air worthy. But I also understood what Jerry said that even though it's the pilot right to refuse flying but the company management may not like it and his career may be in trouble. They can't say that the pilot was wrong but they may simply refuse to advance his career.

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Jan 9, 2024 10:52:25   #
marine73 Loc: Modesto California
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I am not familiar with the rules so I am not speaking with authority here. I understand the pilot has the right to refusing flying a plane he deems not air worthy. But I also understood what Jerry said that even though it's the pilot right to refuse flying but the company management may not like it and his career may be in trouble. They can't say that the pilot was wrong but they may simply refuse to advance his career.


That is where their union would step with a filed grievance. As long as the pilot showed good judgement with the refusal and staid with in the FAA regulations the company cannot impede his career. That would likely open the company up to a lawsuit that they could not win.

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Jan 9, 2024 14:46:52   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I am not familiar with the rules so I am not speaking with authority here. I understand the pilot has the right to refusing flying a plane he deems not air worthy. But I also understood what Jerry said that even though it's the pilot right to refuse flying but the company management may not like it and his career may be in trouble. They can't say that the pilot was wrong but they may simply refuse to advance his career.


That sounds like a silly supposition if you stop and consider the facts and circumstances---especially pilot shortages. Does anyone really believe a pilot will go against his judgement and conscience and fly an airplane that he thinks might kill him and his passengers? He is really concerned about a ding on his record in those circumstances? Nonsense!!!

This whole scenario sounds like a typical Lifetime movie script---based on the movie descriptions I've read. Break out the stale popcorn and warm snuggy and curl up on the couch with a laced tea and escape reality and enjoy fantasy land.

Also, the term "Ive heard" should usually be translated as "I'm guessing".

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