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Jan 8, 2024 11:54:08   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
As usual you are a LIAR or are so ignorant you cannot see the truth. What law(s) am I ignoring? Please point them out for us. I posted word for word the immigration law that says people shall not cross the American border without permission. If you have read what I posted then how can you tell me/us that is not a valid law. Does it not say pretty clearly, nobody gets to enter America without permission. If they do they can be shipped back. If there is a 2nd or 3rd violation, being found in America AGAIN, penalties can be imprisonment. Now don't be an ASS. Did you read that part or not? Answer the question lil denny. You aren't good at answering questions but do answer this one. Am I wrong? Did I post incorrectly?

I am not ignoring your claim of asylum seekers being able to claim asylum. But your law does tend to go a bit different than the law I posted doesn't it?

One important point to consider, millions of these illegal aliens are not going the route of being asylum seekers. They are not asking for asylum at all but simply crossing the border illegally. They are basically saying, FK the American border laws, we are going to cross anyway. From the law I posted doesn't that seem to fit exactly the immigration law they are violating?

You call me an ASSHOLE and yet it is you who refuses to discuss these things. Anybody who doesn't agree with you even after presenting valid evidence to their claim is an ASSHOLE to you. Pretty limited in your opinions aren't you? It seems as it is your way or the highway. Nothing else is to be considered.

Dennis
As usual you are a LIAR or are so ignorant you can... (show quote)


Read carefully! Law rather than opinion.

8 U.S. Code § 1158 - Asylum

It contains

“”” a) Authority to apply for asylum
(1) In general
Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.”

Further

“” B) Time limit
Subject to subparagraph (D), paragraph (1) shall not apply to an alien unless the alien demonstrates by clear and convincing evidence that the application has been filed within 1 year after the date of the alien’s arrival in the United States.
“”

Ref:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158

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Jan 8, 2024 12:04:21   #
Triple G
 
DennyT wrote:
Read carefully! Law rather than opinion.

8 U.S. Code § 1158 - Asylum

It contains

“”” a) Authority to apply for asylum
(1) In general
Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.”

Further

“” B) Time limit
Subject to subparagraph (D), paragraph (1) shall not apply to an alien unless the alien demonstrates by clear and convincing evidence that the application has been filed within 1 year after the date of the alien’s arrival in the United States.
“”

Ref:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158
Read carefully! Law rather than opinion. br br 8 ... (show quote)


He'll never concede to the law being the law.

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Jan 8, 2024 12:13:15   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Read carefully! Law rather than opinion.

8 U.S. Code § 1158 - Asylum

It contains

“”” a) Authority to apply for asylum
(1) In general
Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.”

Further

“” B) Time limit
Subject to subparagraph (D), paragraph (1) shall not apply to an alien unless the alien demonstrates by clear and convincing evidence that the application has been filed within 1 year after the date of the alien’s arrival in the United States.
“”

Ref:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158
Read carefully! Law rather than opinion. br br 8 ... (show quote)


Holy SHIT are you ever a slow learner. You have presented that law I don't have any idea how many times in this thread and other threads. I KNOW what it says and how you just love that law to death. Hopefully you will take it with you printed on parchment so as not to ever forget it in the hereafter. Better make it fireproof parchment at that.

But how IGNORANT of you to give no consideration to the law I have posted here any number of times, 8 U.S. Code, section 1325, Improper entry by alien.

You could at least give some credence to what has been law for as long as I can remember, a law for which I have personally arrested and put in jail close to 100 illegal aliens who had crossed our border illegally. The border patrol would come to the jail and pick up those people to deport them right back to their country of origin, usually Mexico. Now you can pretend that law does not exist but it does and used to have some muscle behind it right up until the Democrat Presidents Obama and Biden decided to circumvent that law.

Dennis

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Jan 8, 2024 12:17:22   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Triple G wrote:
He'll never concede to the law being the law.


You right. Strange attitude for a supposed law officer

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Jan 8, 2024 12:29:46   #
Triple G
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Holy SHIT are you ever a slow learner. You have presented that law I don't have any idea how many times in this thread and other threads. I KNOW what it says and how you just love that law to death. Hopefully you will take it with you printed on parchment so as not to ever forget it in the hereafter. Better make it fireproof parchment at that.

But how IGNORANT of you to give no consideration to the law I have posted here any number of times, 8 U.S. Code, section 1325, Improper entry by alien.

You could at least give some credence to what has been law for as long as I can remember, a law for which I have personally arrested and put in jail close to 100 illegal aliens who had crossed our border illegally. The border patrol would come to the jail and pick up those people to deport them right back to their country of origin, usually Mexico. Now you can pretend that law does not exist but it does and used to have some muscle behind it right up until the Democrat Presidents Obama and Biden decided to circumvent that law.

Dennis
Holy SHIT are you ever a slow learner. You have p... (show quote)


The reason I do not give credence to the law you cite is because it has been deemed by one court as unconstitutional. Just because you applied that law way back when does not make it legit today. That law dates back to 1920 and subsequent asylum laws have mostly negated it.

https://nipnlg.org/unauthorized-entry-re-entry-prosecutions
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/what-do-we-know-about-section-1325
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/homesec/R47667.pdf


"An alien may be found culpable of improper entry under Section 1325(a) through several avenues: entering or attempting to enter the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration authorities (e.g., a surreptitious border crossing between ports of entry); eluding inspection or examination by immigration authorities; or entering or attempting to enter the United States by a willfully false or misleading misrepresentation or willful concealment of a material fact. A first-time unlawful entry offense is typically a misdemeanor subject to a fine or imprisonment, while subsequent offenses after an initial improper entry conviction are felonies subject to a fine or imprisonment not more than two years. Section 1326(a) makes it a felony for an alien to reenter or attempt to reenter, or at any time be found in, the United States without authorization after the alien has been “denied admission, excluded, deported, or removed or has departed the United
States while an order of exclusion, deportation, or removal is outstanding.”
Violations can result in criminal penalties of aterm of imprisonment or a fine (or both).
Federal courts have disagreed over whether entry under Sections 1325(a) and 1326(a) requires an alien to enter the United States “free from official restraint” and what it means to enter free from official restraint. Likewise, Section 1326(a)’s “foundin” provision raises some distinct legal issues that might be of interest to lawmakers, such as what is the meaning of “found
in” the United States, whether the statute is applicable to previously removed aliens who enter the United States lawfully but remain in violation of law, and the application of the pertinent statute of limitations. Another potential area of interest is theintersection of the principles of asylum and the imposition of criminal liability for improper entry and reentry. Congressmight wish to consider whether those who unlawfully enter the United States but intend to seek asylum should be prosecuted for unlawful entry or reentry."

Under the asylum laws, the highlighted parenthetical criteria is immensely important.

https://usafacts.org/articles/section-1325-90-year-old-law-defines-border-crossing-criminality/

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Jan 8, 2024 12:39:31   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
You right. Strange attitude for a supposed law officer


Did you read and comprehend the part where I used to arrest and take to jail a number of illegal aliens? You must have missed that part. You do know I could only have done that IF those people arrested were here in America illegally. Can you possibly understand that concept?

What the hell does your first sentence even mean, "You right. Strange attitude for a supposed law officer"

Is it truly impossible for you to ever be able to post something legible? SUPPOSED law officer. In my wallet right this moment is my RETIRED LEO card. So WTH do you get SUPPOSED?

I tell you I have arrested any number of illegal aliens and then you challenge my LEO abilities to have arrested these people because they broke the law? Why would you do that lil denny? What is your point? Do you, in your ignorance think I am lying about being a LEO, do you think I am lying about arresting these people; what attitude are you talking about. I have the common attitude of most Americans who think these illegal aliens shouldn't be here in my country without proper paperwork. As was pointed out earlier, some of these people are given court dates far in the future like 2031. REALLY, do you believe any of these people will ever put themselves in a court of law to determine if asylum was necessary? Do you believe any judge would have a clue in 2031 that asylum this far back, was necessary?

Dennis

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Jan 8, 2024 12:48:42   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
DennyT wrote:
You right. Strange attitude for a supposed law officer


There was a reason he was fired from that job.

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Jan 8, 2024 16:50:34   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Frank T wrote:
There was a reason he was fired from that job.


His typical day:

- Wake up angry
- Watch FOX, so he can find out who is making him angry
- Ponder how to more control women's bodies and help Trump
- Practice Fascism without knowing what it is
- Fret about the Constitution while tearing it apart
- Read up on the latest conspiracies, get more angry
- Worry that trans/gays & immigrants are coming to get them
- Discover that Dems use their education to "know stuff", become enraged!
- To bed after midnight reading about next insurrection... because he is so angry

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Jan 8, 2024 17:36:14   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
DennyT wrote:
His typical day:

- Wake up angry
- Watch FOX, so he can find out who is making him angry
- Ponder how to more control women's bodies and help Trump
- Practice Fascism without knowing what it is
- Fret about the Constitution while tearing it apart
- Read up on the latest conspiracies, get more angry
- Worry that trans/gays & immigrants are coming to get them
- Discover that Dems use their education to "know stuff", become enraged!
- To bed after midnight reading about next insurrection... because he is so angry
His typical day: br br - Wake up angry br - Watch... (show quote)


Sounds like a progressive liberal to me.

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Jan 8, 2024 17:47:11   #
Triple G
 
DennyT wrote:
His typical day:

- Wake up angry
- Watch FOX, so he can find out who is making him angry
- Ponder how to more control women's bodies and help Trump
- Practice Fascism without knowing what it is
- Fret about the Constitution while tearing it apart
- Read up on the latest conspiracies, get more angry
- Worry that trans/gays & immigrants are coming to get them
- Discover that Dems use their education to "know stuff", become enraged!
- To bed after midnight reading about next insurrection... because he is so angry
His typical day: br br - Wake up angry br - Watch... (show quote)



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Jan 9, 2024 13:08:59   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Repost some nice you missed it if ignored it.

Interesting that you choose to ignore the law(s) you don’t like

.
Asylum seekers can enter America anywhere they want . That includes border between entry control points

And
The second they ask for asylum they are no longer illegal , they are legal as they are awaiting adjudication of their asylees request


Sorry lil denny. I could not get past your meaningless first sentence. What the hell does that even mean? I ask you these same questions probably 3 times per week and you just ignore them. Yet you are always screaming like a little Karen, Answer the Question. So then ANSWER the question. What on earth does your first sentence mean? Do you even have any idea what the hell you are trying to say to the rest of us? I am thinking NOT.

I have posted before a few times I know about the law regarding asylum. I am ignoring nothing. I have even posted the actual law you are talking about. Yet you have never acknowledged or commented upon the Immigration law I have posted, a law still in effect that says people may not cross our border without authorization. Why do you ignore that law.

If you really think your asylum law is special then tell us why every single illegal alien apprehended in America does not ask for asylum when apprehended. They don't you know. A couple of days ago an illegal alien here for the 4th time was arrested after drunk driving into a vehicle killing her nd her 16 year old son. He had been stopped 3 previous times and sent back across the border. Now these people are fairly intelligent especially about violating America's Immigration laws. Tell us why he did not ask for asylum the OTHER 3 times. I will be right here waiting for an answer I know you won't ever submit.

Dennis

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Jan 9, 2024 13:11:17   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Yes because the influx of people wanting to come to America is greater now .


Well DUH, your POS President Biden invited every one of these people to come to America where they will be taken care of. Not even American citizens are taken care of and yet he said these people would be. Amazing huh?

Dennis

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Jan 9, 2024 13:24:00   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Sorry lil denny. I could not get past your meaningless first sentence. What the hell does that even mean? I ask you these same questions probably 3 times per week and you just ignore them. Yet you are always screaming like a little Karen, Answer the Question. So then ANSWER the question. What on earth does your first sentence mean? Do you even have any idea what the hell you are trying to say to the rest of us? I am thinking NOT.

I have posted before a few times I know about the law regarding asylum. I am ignoring nothing. I have even posted the actual law you are talking about. Yet you have never acknowledged or commented upon the Immigration law I have posted, a law still in effect that says people may not cross our border without authorization. Why do you ignore that law.

If you really think your asylum law is special then tell us why every single illegal alien apprehended in America does not ask for asylum when apprehended. They don't you know. A couple of days ago an illegal alien here for the 4th time was arrested after drunk driving into a vehicle killing her nd her 16 year old son. He had been stopped 3 previous times and sent back across the border. Now these people are fairly intelligent especially about violating America's Immigration laws. Tell us why he did not ask for asylum the OTHER 3 times. I will be right here waiting for an answer I know you won't ever submit.

Dennis
Sorry lil denny. I could not get past your meanin... (show quote)


Obviously from your post above you DO NOT know the law on asylum else you would not ask a really stupid question about the illegal driver.

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Jan 9, 2024 13:26:19   #
Triple G
 
DennyT wrote:
Obviously from your post above you DO NOT know the law on asylum else you would not ask a really stupid question about the illegal driver.


He's also did not read the articles on 1325 and 1326.

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Jan 9, 2024 15:37:48   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
letmedance wrote:
Sounds like a progressive liberal to me.


[i]Here you are. ‘Fixed’ it just for you ![\i]

A typical day in the life of . . . a liberal democrat-socialist

— Wake up angry
— Watch Daily Whitehouse Briefing — so they can find out who is making it/him angry. {Become more angry}
— Ponder how to eliminate conservative news services and help Biden and sycophants. {Get more intransigent}
— Actively Promote socialism/communism without knowing what either actually is. {Get more frustrated}
— Fret about the Constitution while tearing it apart; promoting rewriting the Amendments. {Ponder socialism}
— Read up on the latest Repuke efforts of leftist politicos. {Become more belligerent}
— Worry that trans/gays & immigrants are not getting enough attention. {Become more outraged}
— Deny women’s rights by supporting ‘biologic males’ identifying themselves as women. {Feel empowered}
— Refuse to use their education to promote Laws & Constitutional adherence. {Become enraged!}
— Donate funds to reelection campaigns of liberal and socialist-leaning politicians and activists supporting open borders, unlimited entry, ‘family-based’ admissions, DACA, more H1-B visas, Employment-based green cards, ‘diversity’ visas. {Feel righteous}
— Volunteer at sanctuary-supporting clothing or food donation locations. {Become very frustrated}
— Promote and support factions like BLM, defund-the-police groups, LGBT2QUIPSAQ+ {Feel smug & ‘engaged’}

— To bed after midnight reading about additional ways to promote socialism.
———— {{because it/they are so angry !}}


Now if we could just get them all to move to Kalifornicatia . . . .
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

LGBT2QUIPSAQ+XYZ… = any combination of letters attempting to represent all the identities in the queer community, this near-exhaustive one (but not exhaustive) represents Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Pansexual, Two-Spirited, Asexual, Indeterminate + All others
https://www.loyola.edu/department/lgbtq-services/resources/lgbtq-terms-definitions#:

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