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Jan 7, 2024 08:40:58   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
FrumCA wrote:
Because the gov'mnt is here to help, don'tcha know??

6 Reasons Why the Government Is Pushing Electric Vehicles on Americans

The automotive industry faces major changes with the new popularity of electric cars. Political leaders have made their stance on EVs known, and the Biden administration has pledged $15.5 billion to support a strong and just transition to electric vehicles, retool existing plants, and rehire existing workers.

But why so much attention from the government to push the production of electric cars?

Well, there are several reasons. And I will walk you through ten of them:

Environmental Concerns
The most obvious reason is environmental concerns. 95% of the world’s greenhouse emission pollution comes from automobiles. So, if we can eliminate even a fraction of gas-powered cars on the road, the emissions are directly affected. The switch to all-electric transportation seems like a no-brainer for reducing environmental pollution and creating a greener planet.

Air Quality Improvement
A study just came out this week that shows how pregnant people and their unborn babies are potentially harmed by car exhaust. The nitrous dioxide found in car exhaust hurts the air quality and is linked to causing preterm birth and respiratory issues in infants. A move to electric cars would help to improve air quality.

Reducing Dependence on Fossil Fuels
Much of the oil we use in America comes from foreign soil. The move to electric cars would reduce the nation’s dependence on foreign oil and keep more money in the United States. For now, there are lithium-ion sources in the U.S., as well as several electric car models that are produced in America. More money staying in the U.S. means a better economy and more American jobs.

Lower Operating Costs
Studies have shown that electric cars have lower operating costs due to reduced fuel expenses and lower maintenance costs. If Americans are saving money on transportation, there is more money in the pockets of Americans who can stimulate economic growth by allocating that money elsewhere.

Technological Advancements
The reality is that the electric vehicle revolution is happening worldwide, and if America doesn’t keep up with technology, we will become irrelevant in the global market. Government support of EVs helps to ensure that the automotive industry continues to press forward so that America can stay on the cutting edge of the market.

Job Creation
Part of the $15.5 billion pledged to EVs is set to go to automotive manufacturers struggling to keep up with the demand for electric cars. You can’t just flip the switch and transition to all-electric transportation. These automakers are having to redo their production lines, retrain workers, source new parts, and troubleshoot new technology issues.

The easy button would be to outsource a lot of this to other countries like China, who have figured out a lot of these logistics already, but the wise choice is to keep jobs in America, and that’s what the Biden administration is hoping will happen by giving automakers some breathing room in their funding while they are undergoing this big transition.

The possibility for job growth in the U.S. through electric car production is huge, and this could contribute to the overall economic growth of the country.

So, while it may feel like the government is pushing hard for the transition to electric transportation, there seems to be good reason for it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/6-reasons-why-the-government-is-pushing-electric-vehicles-on-americans/ar-AA1iwSaR#:~:text=Political%20leaders%20have%20made%20their%20stance%20on%20EVs,of%20electric%20cars%3F%20Well%2C%20there%20are%20several%20reasons.
Because the gov'mnt is here to help, don'tcha know... (show quote)


Your comment,

"Because the gov'mnt is here to help, don'tcha know??",

tells me all I need to know.

Dennis

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Jan 7, 2024 09:02:40   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
hondo812 wrote:
Did you graduate from High school or are you just an inbred illiterate?

Your sentence should say "Jobs lost we could have had."

As for your presumption that these jobs would have been kept here is pure foolishness. Ford and GM have spent BILLIONS over the last few decades building manufacturing plants "offshore" in Canada, Mexico, GM manufactures cars and car parts in 10 other countries.



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Jan 7, 2024 09:06:57   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
hondo812 wrote:
Did you graduate from High school or are you just an inbred illiterate?

Your sentence should say "Jobs lost we could have had."

As for your presumption that these jobs would have been kept here is pure foolishness. Ford and GM have spent BILLIONS over the last few decades building manufacturing plants "offshore" in Canada, Mexico, GM manufactures cars and car parts in 10 other countries.


lil inbred DennyT should just travel to Monterrey or Saltillo,Mx to understand what yuu are saying...not just AUtos either..tire plants, drug mfg etc....CHina has nothing to do with these moves

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Jan 7, 2024 10:00:43   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
Tesla cars are ridiculously expensive. A friend remarked his was only $125,000. If the battery goes bad its 15 or 16 k to replace.
They are just too costly for most people.

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Jan 7, 2024 11:23:34   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
CPR wrote:
Tesla cars are ridiculously expensive. A friend remarked his was only $125,000. If the battery goes bad its 15 or 16 k to replace.
They are just too costly for most people.


You bring up a good point. Of course there is the problem of the engines catching on fire and being difficult to put out. Where to put the old batteries is also a problem. I have read it is pricey to charge the vehicle battery. I had always assumed it was free but apparently not. It can be costly and time consuming to charge that battery while driving long distances. I can't help but wonder where the charging stations get the electricity to pass on to a vehicle that needs to have the battery charged. Oh wait.....that electricity must come from something like a diesel powered generator. Now how ridiculous is that to have to depend on fossil fuels in order to keep an electric vehicle running?

Dennis

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Jan 7, 2024 12:04:00   #
FrumCA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You bring up a good point. Of course there is the problem of the engines catching on fire and being difficult to put out. Where to put the old batteries is also a problem. I have read it is pricey to charge the vehicle battery. I had always assumed it was free but apparently not. It can be costly and time consuming to charge that battery while driving long distances. I can't help but wonder where the charging stations get the electricity to pass on to a vehicle that needs to have the battery charged. Oh wait.....that electricity must come from something like a diesel powered generator. Now how ridiculous is that to have to depend on fossil fuels in order to keep an electric vehicle running?

Dennis
You bring up a good point. Of course there is the... (show quote)

The issue of providing electricity to the charging stations reminds me of the misguided notion that many local governments have mandated where grocery stores charge five cents or so for a plastic bag when most of the things being purchased are packaged in plastic.

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Jan 7, 2024 12:27:55   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
FrumCA wrote:
The issue of providing electricity to the charging stations reminds me of the misguided notion that many local governments have mandated where grocery stores charge five cents or so for a plastic bag when most of the things being purchased are packaged in plastic.


Exactly right. I can remember when there was controversy over disposable or cloth diapers. Cloth meant they had to be washed over and over which meant a use of water and detergent in our water reservoirs etc. Disposable meant no washing but now people realize there is plastic that will be with us for 100 years or at least a long time.

Paper bags meant cutting down trees, a HUGE NO NO. But plastic bags means plastic bags for 100 years in our landfills. Maybe we should often just leave well enough alone.

Dennis

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Jan 7, 2024 14:11:06   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Exactly right. I can remember when there was controversy over disposable or cloth diapers. Cloth meant they had to be washed over and over which meant a use of water and detergent in our water reservoirs etc. Disposable meant no washing but now people realize there is plastic that will be with us for 100 years or at least a long time.

Paper bags meant cutting down trees, a HUGE NO NO. But plastic bags means plastic bags for 100 years in our landfills. Maybe we should often just leave well enough alone.

Dennis
Exactly right. I can remember when there was cont... (show quote)


seems the greenies dont realize that commercial pine forests are replanted usually within a year of harvest..I do hate to see clearcuts of native hardwood, tho.. especially for housing developments

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Jan 7, 2024 14:22:04   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
wilpharm wrote:
seems the greenies dont realize that commercial pine forests are replanted usually within a year of harvest..I do hate to see clearcuts of native hardwood, tho.. especially for housing developments


In many states I have traveled over the years I have seen signs noting a forest was replanted so many years ago to replenish pine trees cut down. You are right though. I have never seen anything about replanting hardwood trees.

Dennis

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Jan 7, 2024 15:04:31   #
FrumCA
 
wilpharm wrote:
seems the greenies dont realize that commercial pine forests are replanted usually within a year of harvest..I do hate to see clearcuts of native hardwood, tho.. especially for housing developments

Do you remember the environmentalists and other tree hugger doom and gloom message that Yellowstone was destroyed forever after the devastating fires in the 80's?? These fools had no clue as to the resiliency and self-restoration capabilities of a natural forest.

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Jan 7, 2024 15:38:19   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
I never needed or wanted an electric golf cart. I sure as hell don't need or want a car that plugs in.

There is absolutely nothing cheaper than fossil fuel to power a vehicle.

There is also another reason (besides infrastructure) that EV sales are falling off. There is undeniable evidence that electric cars, in the long wrong, create more pollution globally than they are eliminating (based on production processes).

And how many of you think the governments (local/State/Federal) won't just turn off your cars/power thus eliminating travel, commerce, recreation at will? California shuts the power off regularly and at will.

The next thing will be no boats, street rods, race cars, or any fossil fuel powered devices/engines/vehicles. All will be confiscated and sent to the can crusher.

Maybe the Amish have it right?

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Jan 7, 2024 15:49:52   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
For the unaware, Chinese BYD EV models have a tendency to explode violently .

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Jan 7, 2024 16:53:45   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
letmedance wrote:
For the unaware, Chinese BYD EV models have a tendency to explode violently .


Exploding e-car. My brother-in-law sent me.

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Jan 7, 2024 17:10:55   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
FrumCA wrote:
Do you remember the environmentalists and other tree hugger doom and gloom message that Yellowstone was destroyed forever after the devastating fires in the 80's?? These fools had no clue as to the resiliency and self-restoration capabilities of a natural forest.


yeah, I think the fires were better than the beetles

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Jan 7, 2024 17:12:28   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:
In many states I have traveled over the years I have seen signs noting a forest was replanted so many years ago to replenish pine trees cut down. You are right though. I have never seen anything about replanting hardwood trees.

Dennis


really evident through the deep south, esp Miss., Ala, Ga....gazillion acres pines

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