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Jan 6, 2024 10:53:39   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The local hospital had 26 Covid cases at the beginning of December. Within two weeks, it had 41 cases. A nearby hospital has 80 Covid patients. These are all people who are so sick that they need hospitalization, and it does not include the stay-at-home people who have Covid.

I've always heard that those blue masks were not effective for Covid, and I believe it. Just out of curiosity, I used one for sawing wood and spray painting, and they're worthless even for that.

If you don't believe that Covid is real, you don't have to post that here. Maybe we can keep this out of The Attic.
The local hospital had 26 Covid cases at the begin... (show quote)


Yep, I get a local Covid report for my area and the U.S. sent to me weekly for rises in daily covid admissions, hospitalized patients, and ICU beds occupied. It's going up everywhere and my area is particularly bad with all those stats rising between 12% and 27% and steadily increasing every week since Thanksgiving.

I'm hoping that it is just caused by holiday travel and not another big spike coming. We'll see in the next month or so. I'm masking when I go indoors in crowded places now even though I've had the latest booster plus the RSV and Flu vaccines. At my age and with asthma my feeling is that "you can't be too careful".

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Jan 6, 2024 11:00:50   #
ecblackiii Loc: Maryland
 
fourlocks wrote:
I kinda agree although the masks, shutdowns and lockdowns were the best the medical community could offer while waiting for vaccines to be developed. I mean, what were they going to say in 2020? "Well, we have absolutely no strategy to protect your lives; a lot of you will simply die while we try to come up with a remedy." They had to offer us something and those strategies probably did save a limited number of people (like my friend who lived like a hermit for two years). Masks were never about protecting the wearer; they were to protect others from the wearer's cough, sneeze and spray.
I kinda agree although the masks, shutdowns and lo... (show quote)


I mostly agree with you, but the saying that "masks were never intended to protect the wearer: they were meant to protect others," is hogwash. It was a physiological attempt to overcome wearer's skepticism by imposing a guilt trip if one didn't wear the mask. Think about it. They are telling us that a mask is a one-way device, keeping viruses from escaping one's body, but not from being inhaled. That's scientifically absurb!

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Jan 6, 2024 11:09:11   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The local hospital had 26 Covid cases at the beginning of December. Within two weeks, it had 41 cases. A nearby hospital has 80 Covid patients. These are all people who are so sick that they need hospitalization, and it does not include the stay-at-home people who have Covid.

I've always heard that those blue masks were not effective for Covid, and I believe it. Just out of curiosity, I used one for sawing wood and spray painting, and they're worthless even for that.

If you don't believe that Covid is real, you don't have to post that here. Maybe we can keep this out of The Attic.
The local hospital had 26 Covid cases at the begin... (show quote)


A very good friend/former colleague's wife contracted Covid, went to the hospital and died last Tue. For sure, it's real!!
Mark

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Jan 6, 2024 11:10:32   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
I think Covid is the new flu. Kind of the same thing but not quite. Last spring I contracted a coronavirus, but it wasn’t Covid. Covid is one of many coronaviruses but not all coronaviruses are Covid.

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Jan 6, 2024 11:28:34   #
JBRIII
 
From our experience, getting Covid for us has been a lot like a bad head cold, very bad one for my wife at the moment. The vaccine may keep one from the hospital, very near thing for my wife right now, but does not for us work as well as the flu vaccines in keeping us from getting it. We've had one case of flu in 20-30 years between us. But we have had all the Covid shots (6?), still got Covid in Australia in April and now again on a trip to Antarctica. This second time it has been much worse than the first, so getting it also does not seem to provide lasting immunity.

For us, this may mean the end of traveling out of the country. Not saying won't get it here, but much easier and less expensive to interrupt a road trip than returning from over seas or spending the trip in your ship room or hotel.

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Jan 6, 2024 11:33:32   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
Masks were never about protecting the wearer; they were to protect others from the wearer's cough, sneeze and spray.


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Yes!

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Jan 6, 2024 11:39:00   #
srron Loc: Courtice,On.
 
jaymatt wrote:
Covid is like the flu; it's here to stay.

And those masks and shutdowns and lockdowns--they were a joke. But the vaccinations weren't.


So called vaccines are the biggest joke, they do nothing vaccines are supposed to do. Even the flue vaccines are only 16% effective.

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Jan 6, 2024 11:46:44   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
Please check your calendar --
This is indeed the 21st Century

GO GET YOUR SHOTS

We need you alive & well
HAPPY NEW YEAR

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Jan 6, 2024 11:47:50   #
srt101fan
 
ggttc wrote:
Yes!


No!

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Jan 6, 2024 11:49:12   #
ecblackiii Loc: Maryland
 
Don't know where you get your information from, but I can't accept it. I am over 80 and used to get colds and flu multiple times a year. But in the past four years have had no cold or flu or Covid, thanks to proper vaccines.

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Jan 6, 2024 11:54:28   #
btbg
 
srt101fan wrote:
Masks are not a joke....


Read the Cochrane report, not stories about it. No statistical difference between mask wearers and non wearers. They do nothing.

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Jan 6, 2024 12:15:17   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
A virus is so small that it is measured in nanometers. A nanometer is one billionth of a meter which can be expressed in scientific notation as 1×10−9 m, and as 1/1000000000 meter or 1/1000th of a millimeter. The COVID-19 virus particle is around 0.1 microns in size which can be arrested with a well-fitted N95 mask.

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Jan 6, 2024 12:19:58   #
srt101fan
 
btbg wrote:
Read the Cochrane report, not stories about it. No statistical difference between mask wearers and non wearers. They do nothing.


https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/scicheck-what-the-cochrane-review-says-about-masks-for-covid-19-and-what-it-doesnt/

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Jan 6, 2024 12:33:38   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The local hospital had 26 Covid cases at the beginning of December. Within two weeks, it had 41 cases. A nearby hospital has 80 Covid patients. These are all people who are so sick that they need hospitalization, and it does not include the stay-at-home people who have Covid.

I've always heard that those blue masks were not effective for Covid, and I believe it. Just out of curiosity, I used one for sawing wood and spray painting, and they're worthless even for that.

If you don't believe that Covid is real, you don't have to post that here. Maybe we can keep this out of The Attic.
The local hospital had 26 Covid cases at the begin... (show quote)


The blue masks are not N95's or KN95's so yes, they are ineffective against COVID. The 95 masks and distancing were primarily to keep an infected person from unknowingly spreading the virus by cough or sneeze and to keep water droplets from others out of your airway. Not enough people followed the protocols to contain the spread.

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Jan 6, 2024 12:35:57   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
jaymatt wrote:
Covid is like the flu; it's here to stay.

And those masks and shutdowns and lockdowns--they were a joke. But the vaccinations weren't.


The protocols were not a joke. They were ineffective because not enough people followed them. The vaccines were and still are the best way to keep infected people out of the hospitals.

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