Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
The Attic
Origin: Probability of a Single Protein Forming by Chance
Page <prev 2 of 6 next> last>>
Jan 3, 2024 19:56:58   #
jcboy3
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Well, you are quite illiterate aren’t you? I never said that the creator could be proven through science. I’ve said that on many occasions. And I don’t say that a creator exist I said, I believe the creator exist. But here you are believing in some mumble jumble Abiogenesis that has never been proven no evidence of it, and has never been observed.


Of course you didn't. So let science do what science does. And I don't care if you believe in the Easter Bunny. But science does not need to consider any creationist mumbo-jumbo, either. Just proceed with finding the physical answer.

As for your insults...

Reply
Jan 3, 2024 20:00:15   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Of course you didn't. So let science do what science does. And I don't care if you believe in the Easter Bunny. But science does not need to consider any creationist mumbo-jumbo, either. Just proceed with finding the physical answer.

As for your insults...


lol You are demonstrating signs of losing an argument. Like I said, science could not prove or disprove of a non-physical creator, and I don’t make that claim. My claim is that I believe in a God, or a creator by faith. You, however, believe in some sort of process through abiogenesis that life spontaneously developed from a non-life source. Yet there is no evidence that has ever happened and there is no evidence that it’s occurring now yet you believe in that mumbo-jumbo without any evidence.

Reply
Jan 3, 2024 20:18:24   #
jcboy3
 
Racmanaz wrote:
lol You are demonstrating signs of losing an argument. Like I said, science could not prove or disprove of a non-physical creator, and I don’t make that claim. My claim is that I believe in a God, or a creator by faith. You, however, believe in some sort of process through abiogenesis that life spontaneously developed from a non-life source. Yet there is no evidence that has ever happened and there is no evidence that it’s occurring now yet you believe in that mumbo-jumbo without any evidence.


Wrong. There is current evidence of mutation and evolution. There is no evidence of a supernatural creator.

Life is merely self-replication. There is lots of evidence of self-replication. So the details of getting to a stable self-replication consistent with current life forms has not been discovered. But no one says the science is done. Just that it's more logical to pursue what is known, than to pursue what come crackpots believe.

Reply
 
 
Jan 3, 2024 21:14:47   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Well, you are quite illiterate aren’t you? I never said that the creator could be proven through science. I’ve said that on many occasions. And I don’t say that a creator exist I said, I believe the creator exist. But here you are believing in some mumble jumble Abiogenesis that has never been proven no evidence of it, and has never been observed.



"Well, you are quite illiterate, aren’t you? I never said that."

Just for giggles why don't you go back and count how many

times you began a post with those exact words?

Maybe you are the problem.

Reply
Jan 3, 2024 21:24:33   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Wrong. There is current evidence of mutation and evolution. There is no evidence of a supernatural creator.

Life is merely self-replication. There is lots of evidence of self-replication. So the details of getting to a stable self-replication consistent with current life forms has not been discovered. But no one says the science is done. Just that it's more logical to pursue what is known, than to pursue what come crackpots believe.


See you are deflecting once again and answering a question I did not even ask or was even taking about. The Abiogenesis hypothesis you believe in has ZERO evidence and absolutely NO observational evidence whatsoever. You believe in something that has ZERO scientific observable evidence. You believe in fairy tales.

Reply
Jan 3, 2024 21:25:56   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
"Well, you are quite illiterate, aren’t you? I never said that."

Just for giggles why don't you go back and count how many

times you began a post with those exact words?

Maybe you are the problem.


Do me a favor and go spend the time and count them for me.

Reply
Jan 3, 2024 23:19:46   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Do me a favor and go spend the time and count them for me.


Iol. It's easier and more entertaining to use the ... UHH search engine. Ex: type in say, evoloution scammers or abortion or intellegent design or Ray Epps or Fetterman ... etc. Rac's humbug comes up everytime. The archive is deep and wide. It's his own fault.

Reply
 
 
Jan 4, 2024 09:04:02   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
pendennis wrote:
It's likely that life got its start numerous times from unlinked chemical reactions. It's not that scientists aren't trying, but the number of combinations of amino acids reacting in concert with the right electrical charge from lightning, solar reaction, or static electricity is beyond the capacity of even the most powerful computers and computer simulators. And we don't know whether life got its start in the oceans, some primordial swamp goo, or just where.

Life likely did not survive its first start-up. It took billions of tries, and trials and errors before life took hold. And that was for a single cell organism. More complex, i.e. multi-cell organisms, took eons.

Evolution is not a straight line, from one cell, to mankind; it's branching. It's why we still have apes and chimpanzees.
It's likely that life got its start numerous times... (show quote)


The probability of so many conditions being just right for “life” to spontaneously happen is infinitesimally low.

But that is the beauty of understanding the true vastness of infinity. If time and the universe are infinite, then the probability of ANYTHING happening, no matter how small that probability, is 100%.

Thus, the possibility that there might be a god who created the universe is just as likely as the possibility that there is no god and the universe just “happened.”

Infinity… an incomprehensibly beautiful concept… that transcends all human understanding.

Reply
Jan 4, 2024 09:12:55   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
JohnFrim wrote:
The probability of so many conditions being just right for “life” to spontaneously happen is infinitesimally low.

But that is the beauty of understanding the true vastness of infinity. If time and the universe are infinite, then the probability of ANYTHING happening, no matter how small that probability, is 100%.

Thus, the possibility that there might be a god who created the universe is just as likely as the possibility that there is no god and the universe just “happened.”

Infinity… an incomprehensibly beautiful concept… that transcends all human understanding.
The probability of so many conditions being just r... (show quote)


The problem is that the infinitesimally low probability of life originating from non-life is just one part of the equation. There are many “infinitesimally low” probabilities that must occur and be sustained even before the infinitesimally low probability of life originating from non-life to have occurred. The cosmological constant is one of many that comes to mind that is relatively impossible to happen without a creative mind. And we’re not even touching the issue of the probability of consciousness.

Reply
Jan 4, 2024 12:52:15   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
ONLY 100 Billion galaxies at the newest best estimate... Our little inflated hatbands think we are better than sliced bread... What was that novel where the BIG screen showed little red dots blinking out as self aware species " did not make it " and new little red dots of emerging species in the universe.... Science is just a feeble attempt to explain and understand within the framework of our physical laws such as physics, chemistry etc... the works of something we really have no comprehension of.

Reply
Jan 4, 2024 14:22:41   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
The problem is that the infinitesimally low probability of life originating from non-life is just one part of the equation. There are many “infinitesimally low” probabilities that must occur and be sustained even before the infinitesimally low probability of life originating from non-life to have occurred. The cosmological constant is one of many that comes to mind that is relatively impossible to happen without a creative mind. And we’re not even touching the issue of the probability of consciousness.
The problem is that the infinitesimally low probab... (show quote)

Your comment shows you have not grasped the true meaning of infinity.

Reply
 
 
Jan 4, 2024 14:28:54   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Your comment shows you have not grasped the true meaning of infinity.



Wrong, I know exactly what it means and my comment stands strong. You lose again.

Reply
Jan 4, 2024 15:04:49   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Wrong, I know exactly what it means and my comment stands strong. You lose again.


Some day you will have to show us all your trophies for all your wins.

Or are they just participating in trophies?

Reply
Jan 4, 2024 16:12:29   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
Some day you will have to show us all your trophies for all your wins.

Or are they just participating in trophies?


Participating trophies are all reserved for lefty liberals like you.

Reply
Jan 4, 2024 20:08:46   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Wrong, I know exactly what it means and my comment stands strong. You lose again.


No Rac, you lose. Infinity means that ANYTHING that CAN possibly happen WILL happen... 100%.

Heck, that means that you might actually agree with me on this issue!

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 6 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
The Attic
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.