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Jan 1, 2024 15:05:45   #
Vladimir200 Loc: Beaumont, Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Wrong again little girl.


Come on, everyone. Let's stop the name calling. Actually, jcboy3 is correct. Science does not support religion. But, if you do believe in religion, then no problem; go for it. I always say if it works for you, makes you a better person, helps you through tough times, etc., then great. I'm not religious but some of my best buddies are and I say GREAT (for them, anyhow). We chat, laugh, and have fun together and agree we'll not agree on the science of religion. BTW, some interesting facts. Over the years, as science has answered more and more questions (i.e. how hurricanes and earthquakes really happen, etc etc), the belief in organized religion has decreased. Another interesting fact I recently read: Of all of the continents in the world Christianity has decreased (last few decades) in all of them except one: Answer: Africa. There, Christianity has increased.

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Jan 1, 2024 15:13:15   #
jcboy3
 
Vladimir200 wrote:
Come on, everyone. Let's stop the name calling. Actually, jcboy3 is correct. Science does not support religion. But, if you do believe in religion, then no problem; go for it. I always say if it works for you, makes you a better person, helps you through tough times, etc., then great. I'm not religious but some of my best buddies are and I say GREAT (for them, anyhow). We chat, laugh, and have fun together and agree we'll not agree on the science of religion. BTW, some interesting facts. Over the years, as science has answered more and more questions (i.e. how hurricanes and earthquakes really happen, etc etc), the belief in organized religion has decreased. Another interesting fact I recently read: Of all of the continents in the world Christianity has decreased (last few decades) in all of them except one: Answer: Africa. There, Christianity has increased.
Come on, everyone. Let's stop the name calling. ... (show quote)


Good luck getting through to Racman. It's favorite responses: liar, illiterate, pedo, hypocrite, fascist, ignorant, foolish...

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Jan 1, 2024 15:19:23   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Vladimir200 wrote:
Come on, everyone. Let's stop the name calling. Actually, jcboy3 is correct. Science does not support religion. But, if you do believe in religion, then no problem; go for it. I always say if it works for you, makes you a better person, helps you through tough times, etc., then great. I'm not religious but some of my best buddies are and I say GREAT (for them, anyhow). We chat, laugh, and have fun together and agree we'll not agree on the science of religion. BTW, some interesting facts. Over the years, as science has answered more and more questions (i.e. how hurricanes and earthquakes really happen, etc etc), the belief in organized religion has decreased. Another interesting fact I recently read: Of all of the continents in the world Christianity has decreased (last few decades) in all of them except one: Answer: Africa. There, Christianity has increased.
Come on, everyone. Let's stop the name calling. ... (show quote)


Well I never once said that science supports religion, it doesn't because that's not it's purpose nor can it do so. Vlad, at least you are more tolerant of those that believe in a god of some sort and you don't demean them for their belief, that is honorable unlike JCboy who demeans all people who believe in a higher power or agent. We need more people on your "side" that has respect for people with other views. JCboy is just an arrogant soul and should not be taken seriously, I just have to laugh at his blatant ignorance.

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Jan 1, 2024 15:46:20   #
srg
 
Racmanaz wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnv8f-3u-4


Your title would be accurate if you substitute RaQ in the beginning.

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Jan 1, 2024 15:47:35   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
srg wrote:
Your title would be accurate if you substitute RaQ in the beginning.


OK...

"RaQ in the beginning proves that Atheism is Irrational, anti-science and incoherent"

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Jan 1, 2024 16:59:28   #
cwp3420
 
Racmanaz wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnv8f-3u-4



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Jan 1, 2024 17:01:01   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Amazing ha? More like pure stupidity

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Jan 2, 2024 15:18:23   #
Rose42
 
Vladimir200 wrote:
Come on, everyone. Let's stop the name calling. Actually, jcboy3 is correct. Science does not support religion. But, if you do believe in religion, then no problem; go for it. I always say if it works for you, makes you a better person, helps you through tough times, etc., then great. I'm not religious but some of my best buddies are and I say GREAT (for them, anyhow). We chat, laugh, and have fun together and agree we'll not agree on the science of religion. BTW, some interesting facts. Over the years, as science has answered more and more questions (i.e. how hurricanes and earthquakes really happen, etc etc), the belief in organized religion has decreased. Another interesting fact I recently read: Of all of the continents in the world Christianity has decreased (last few decades) in all of them except one: Answer: Africa. There, Christianity has increased.
Come on, everyone. Let's stop the name calling. ... (show quote)


Jcboy is not correct but its pointless to discuss as he is not a seeker of truth but one who looks for ways to reinforce his atheism.

Many scientists are Christians. To claim Christians eschew science is simple ignorance

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Jan 2, 2024 15:25:00   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Rose42 wrote:
Jcboy is not correct but its pointless to discuss as he is not a seeker of truth but one who looks for ways to reinforce his atheism.

Many scientists are Christians. To claim Christians eschew science is simple ignorance


Just more Atheist lies.

‘Christianity and the Birth of Modern Science’

https://www.theologyofscience.org/christianity-and-the-birth-of-modern-science/

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Jan 2, 2024 15:29:40   #
Vladimir200 Loc: Beaumont, Ca.
 
Rose42 wrote:
Jcboy is not correct but its pointless to discuss as he is not a seeker of truth but one who looks for ways to reinforce his atheism.

Many scientists are Christians. To claim Christians eschew science is simple ignorance


Rose42, sorry, my friend, you are incorrect. I have quite a few scientist friends who are Christians and do believe in religion. One of them is a physician, a surgeon. They all agree, however, that science simply does not defend organized religion but they believe anyhow for reasons that, even they, can not explain. But, they believe anyhow and they tell me they have made peace with it. Stephen Hawking was an English brilliant theoretical physicist and cosmologist. When asked if he believed in God, he replied something like "no, science does not support religion". He was not angry, defensive, or combative, simply stating the facts as all scientists do.

It is OK to be religious and believe regardless of whether science supports it or not. Cool out and enjoy life and your religion and try not to fight facts. If you don't believe me (I wouldn't if I were you), just do your research. Also, and this is important, have fun with your photography.

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Jan 2, 2024 17:13:58   #
Rose42
 
Vladimir200 wrote:
Rose42, sorry, my friend, you are incorrect. I have quite a few scientist friends who are Christians and do believe in religion. One of them is a physician, a surgeon. They all agree, however, that science simply does not defend organized religion but they believe anyhow for reasons that, even they, can not explain. But, they believe anyhow and they tell me they have made peace with it. Stephen Hawking was an English brilliant theoretical physicist and cosmologist. When asked if he believed in God, he replied something like "no, science does not support religion". He was not angry, defensive, or combative, simply stating the facts as all scientists do.

It is OK to be religious and believe regardless of whether science supports it or not. Cool out and enjoy life and your religion and try not to fight facts. If you don't believe me (I wouldn't if I were you), just do your research. Also, and this is important, have fun with your photography.
Rose42, sorry, my friend, you are incorrect. I ha... (show quote)


Steven Hawking was smart but he was not wise. There is a difference.

Science will likely never explain Jesus Christ but then there are many things science can’t explain. That doesn’t mean Christians aren’t interested in science

I don’t fight facts but am stating them. One can’t be forced to believe - its a choice. The scientists, doctors and engineers I know who are Christians can explain exactly why they believe and they can honestly say science has no idea how to explain the origins and complexities of life. That is the truth and there are many who have trouble with that truth.

Have yourself a Happy New Year.

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Jan 2, 2024 17:18:47   #
Vladimir200 Loc: Beaumont, Ca.
 
Rose42 wrote:
Steven Hawking was smart but he was not wise. There is a difference.

Science will likely never explain Jesus Christ

I don’t fight facts but am stating them. One can’t be forced to believe - its a choice. The scientists, doctors and engineers I know who are Christians can explain exactly why they believe and they can honestly say science has no idea how to explain the origins and complexities of life. That is the truth and there are many who have trouble with that truth.
Steven Hawking was smart but he was not wise. The... (show quote)


But, here is the bottom line: Who cares what you, me, Steven Hawking, your friends, or my friends believe? As long as we are happy with our choice after we research the facts, then all is good. We make our decision(s) and go on. My primary reason for responding to the original quote was this: Why the name calling? What is the value? Why did you call someone a name bec they did not agree with you? Is that what a religious person would do? I know a certain politician who calls everyone and anyone a (negative) name that does not agree with that person.

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Jan 2, 2024 19:14:17   #
Rose42
 
Vladimir200 wrote:
But, here is the bottom line: Who cares what you, me, Steven Hawking, your friends, or my friends believe? As long as we are happy with our choice after we research the facts, then all is good. We make our decision(s) and go on. My primary reason for responding to the original quote was this: Why the name calling? What is the value? Why did you call someone a name bec they did not agree with you? Is that what a religious person would do? I know a certain politician who calls everyone and anyone a (negative) name that does not agree with that person.
But, here is the bottom line: Who cares what you,... (show quote)


I didn’t call anyone a name. I never call anyone stupid for their beliefs.

I care what people believe but won’t try and push it down their throat. I look at it like this - if someone is overboard toss them a life preserver. But its their choice whether to pick it up

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