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Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

radiojohn wrote:

I still like the idea of our "astronaunts" plugging these into the 110v wall sockets on the SpaceX rocket to keep warm on the way to the space station.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

Heating a room and heating a room to a comfortable temperature are two completely different things.

Any heater will heat a room. But you probably want the temperature to go up more than 0.001 degree.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Longshadow wrote:

There is theory,
and then there is practicality.
You do realize that I'm not referring to the ceramic heaters that sit on the floor, right?

Yes, but even those in the current ads are big enough to heat a small room if they get to run long enough. That is what the ads don't show. They show a large room as opposed to a small bedroom or some such.
Some older houses, the ones that often don't have good central heating, can have bedrooms just big enough for a double bed with a walk way around it. Put a heavy drape over the window and a small heater can at least take off most of the chill.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

rustfarmer wrote:

Then there are the ads for Dr. Oz and Ben Carson "renowned cardiac and diabetes experts", smh.

Ben Carson is a retired MD. Neurosurgeon (ie brain surgeon), professor of neurosurgery. Chief of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins. He was also Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.

So I would say he is over qualified to do those commercials and endorsements. Besides, they make a really nice supplement to his retirement.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

fourlocks wrote:

One would expect Amazon or Google to exercise at l... (show quote)

I will throw in a bridge in Brooklyn for free. Sort of like my street legal, 30mph, electric mobility scooter that the maker says a full battery charge is only, I think it is 7 cents per mile of range. That is probably the place with the cheapest electricity in the US. It sure isn't California. But it is a LOT cheaper than fuel for a gas powered one.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

radiojohn wrote:

I still like the idea of our "astronaunts" plugging these into the 110v wall sockets on the SpaceX rocket to keep warm on the way to the space station.

Wearing those space suits, they would never know the difference.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

robertjerl wrote:

Yes, but even those in the current ads are big enough to heat a small room if they get to run long enough. That is what the ads don't show. They show a large room as opposed to a small bedroom or some such.
Some older houses, the ones that often don't have good central heating, can have bedrooms just big enough for a double bed with a walk way around it. Put a heavy drape over the window and a small heater can at least take off most of the chill.

Sorry, I don't want to wait three days for the room to <maybe> get heated......

Yea, small heater, not a little something that plugs into a wall outlet.

NDMarks Loc: Dublin, Ca

There is definitely one problem with the plug-in heaters - the typical house wiring is rated and circuit-breakered at 15-20 watts. This is probably not nearly enough to do what the ads claim, and if you are lucky it may trip the ckt breaker, worst case could lead to wiring problem. May the buyer beware.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

NDMarks wrote:

There is definitely one problem with the plug-in heaters - the typical house wiring is rated and circuit-breakered at 15-20 watts. This is probably not nearly enough to do what the ads claim, and if you are lucky it may trip the ckt breaker, worst case could lead to wiring problem. May the buyer beware.

Try 15 to 20 AMPS.
Kitchen usually 20 AMPS.
Full load at 15 AMPS at 120 VOLTS is 1,800 WATTS. (Power=Amps x Volts)
20 amps in the kitchen outlets can supply 2,400 WATTS.
(Prolonged usage of 15 amps may trip the 15 amp breaker.)

If an outlet could only supply 15-20 watts, your toaster, electric skillet, slow cooker, ... would not work.

NDMarks Loc: Dublin, Ca

So Sorry, my mistake. Of course it's 15-20 AMPS. I am going through a bout of pneumonia and bronchitis and the meds are making me dizzy. Anyway, my point is that 1800-2400 watts are not enough to do what the ads say, and you are hoping the circuit breaker trips if there is an overload.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

NDMarks wrote:

So Sorry, my mistake. Of course it's 15-20 AMPS. I am going through a bout of pneumonia and bronchitis and the meds are making me dizzy. Anyway, my point is that 1800-2400 watts are not enough to do what the ads say, and you are hoping the circuit breaker trips if there is an overload.

Sorry, I just didn't want other people to take it and run with it.

Yup.
Most "room" outlets, other than the kitchen, are 15 amp circuits.
Not only do circuit breakers pop when the current is exceeded, they'll heat up and pop because of too high a constant load. Dual safety factor.

pego101

radiojohn wrote:

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Your a genius to see through the silly over hyped ad copy. Thank you for warning the less astute.

pego101

robertjerl wrote:

Depends on the room, how well insulated and how lo... (show quote)

Thank you for the wonderful story

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Same thing for those plug-in-the-wall power factor adjusters to save electricity (lower your bill).
The only thing they will adjust is the seller's bank account.

RightOnPhotography Loc: Quebec,QC

Longshadow wrote:

If anyone believes that a little box plugged into a wall socket will heat a room.............

Especially with device's plastic enclosure. Keep the fire department number on the speed dial.