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Dec 21, 2023 17:29:09   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
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Thaz why I asked. I keep finding $1000. If it were really less than $500 Id be awaiting delivery right now. Ill be waaaay pleased for you to show me the sub $500 100mm lens ... which I will guess would NOT be the $1000 macro that I dont need but is all that I keep finding by searching :-(


Went back to the site I bookmarded. Seems the boy has made a correction - the canon is $999 and the $500ish ones are Chinese third party. Though I had another lens from one of them that was pretty good if a bit lightly constructed.

I just checked Amazon and here is today's results: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=100mm+macro+for+RF+mount&crid=6TKLYRQZ6GJC&sprefix=100mm+macro+for+rf+mount%2Caps%2C179&ref=nb_sb_noss

One below 500 and one above 500 (new model just released) are Tokina and every one of their lenses I have had was pretty good, and Japanese made with Korean and Chinese sub-contrated parts in some lenses according to a few people I know.

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Dec 24, 2023 08:42:06   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
A dedicated macro lens is best, extension tubes next, and axillary filters last. All work, only you can decide what is best for your use.
Tubes work on all lenses, and they usually come in sets of three, so you can use the amount of magnification that works with the lens that you are using. Yes, they work for all lenses, normal and telephoto. They are also only spacers for the lens, so you can get auto or manual, depending on how much you want to spend. I have used both, and with modern cameras, both work fine.

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Dec 24, 2023 10:07:38   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
topcat wrote:
A dedicated macro lens is best, extension tubes next, and axillary filters last. All work, only you can decide what is best for your use.
Tubes work on all lenses, and they usually come in sets of three, so you can use the amount of magnification that works with the lens that you are using. Yes, they work for all lenses, normal and telephoto. They are also only spacers for the lens, so you can get auto or manual, depending on how much you want to spend. I have used both, and with modern cameras, both work fine.
A dedicated macro lens is best, extension tubes ne... (show quote)


Thanks all my original question was concerning the Macro switch on my old 24-70 f4. Paul answered that one.
Now, which lens is best? The ef 100mm or the newer rf 100mm? I have read some not so great reviews on the new rf 100 mm and some very positive ones? Any real owners want to comment?

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Dec 24, 2023 11:35:44   #
MountainDave
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
Thanks all my original question was concerning the Macro switch on my old 24-70 f4. Paul answered that one.
Now, which lens is best? The ef 100mm or the newer rf 100mm? I have read some not so great reviews on the new rf 100 mm and some very positive ones? Any real owners want to comment?


I read the same reviews and opted to keep my EF version. The RF version is clearly sharper but the EF version is sharp enough. The issue with focus shift makes the RF version a non starter for me. Justin Abbott showed this issue clearly in his youtube review when photographing his cat. He also mentioned he's owned the EF version longer than any other lens! That's true for me too. I use mine mostly in summer on high country hikes to photograph alpine wildflowers. During these excursions, I've had occasion to also photograph my wife, dogs, landscapes and critters. It produces beautiful, compelling images in all circumstances. I would buy one used for around 500.

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Dec 24, 2023 11:49:00   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
MountainDave wrote:
I read the same reviews and opted to keep my EF version. The RF version is clearly sharper but the EF version is sharp enough. The issue with focus shift makes the RF version a non starter for me. Justin Abbott showed this issue clearly in his youtube review when photographing his cat. He also mentioned he's owned the EF version longer than any other lens! That's true for me too. I use mine mostly in summer on high country hikes to photograph alpine wildflowers. During these excursions, I've had occasion to also photograph my wife, dogs, landscapes and critters. It produces beautiful, compelling images in all circumstances. I would buy one used for around 500.
I read the same reviews and opted to keep my EF ve... (show quote)


Thanks for your feedback.
Much appreciated

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Dec 24, 2023 12:16:30   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
Thanks all my original question was concerning the Macro switch on my old 24-70 f4. Paul answered that one.
Now, which lens is best? The ef 100mm or the newer rf 100mm? I have read some not so great reviews on the new rf 100 mm and some very positive ones? Any real owners want to comment?


I have the RF-85 f/2 macro, and it is great, about $500.

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Dec 24, 2023 12:26:08   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
robertjerl wrote:
I have the RF-85 f/2 macro, and it is great, about $500.



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Dec 24, 2023 13:23:37   #
MountainDave
 
Macro enthusiasts will argue that the 85's magnification of .5X is not a true macro vs. the 100's 1X or 1.4X in the RF's case. 0.5X is very good and makes the lens more flexible, just not in the same league as the 100.

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Dec 24, 2023 13:52:13   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
robertjerl wrote:
I have the RF-85 f/2 macro, and it is great, about $500.


Yes, I have seen BIG Imatest numbers on this lens ....

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Dec 24, 2023 13:56:24   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
MountainDave wrote:
Macro enthusiasts will argue that the 85's magnification of .5X is not a true macro vs. the 100's 1X or 1.4X in the RF's case. 0.5X is very good and makes the lens more flexible, just not in the same league as the 100.


How often does one shoot @ greater than 1:2 - me, hardly EVER .......but that IS the question to ask.

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Dec 24, 2023 16:35:46   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The 'macro' idea of the old lens was marketing speak, not actual performance. Personally, I've found extension tubes on anything less than 100mm to be very problematic, you need to be virtually on top of / nearly touching the subject to be within the focus range of the lens.

Moreover, there are not any Canon-branded RF extension tubes yet. Look at your other longer lenses for macro / close-up work.

Regarding the old Canon EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM:

Focal lengths markings are found for 24mm, 35mm, 50mm and 70mm. After the 70mm mark is a macro range which is engaged by pushing a "Macro/Lock" switch towards "Macro" and rotating the zoom ring past the 70mm mark. Under these conditions the lens is now in the macro range and maximum magnification is 0.7x. The lens is returned to the normal focusing range by sliding the "Macro/Lock" switch towards "Macro" and rotating the zoom ring back past 70mm into the normal zoom range.
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The reason I am inquiring is that I was rear-ended in a car accident and am having a hard time standing and bending like I did before.
I was thinking Marco would be easier on my back.

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Dec 24, 2023 17:51:35   #
MountainDave
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
The reason I am inquiring is that I was rear-ended in a car accident and am having a hard time standing and bending like I did before.
I was thinking Marco would be easier on my back.


What exactly do you want to do with it that you can't now?

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Dec 24, 2023 17:56:51   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
MountainDave wrote:
I read the same reviews and opted to keep my EF version. The RF version is clearly sharper but the EF version is sharp enough. The issue with focus shift makes the RF version a non starter for me. Justin Abbott showed this issue clearly in his youtube review when photographing his cat. He also mentioned he's owned the EF version longer than any other lens! That's true for me too. I use mine mostly in summer on high country hikes to photograph alpine wildflowers. During these excursions, I've had occasion to also photograph my wife, dogs, landscapes and critters. It produces beautiful, compelling images in all circumstances. I would buy one used for around 500.
I read the same reviews and opted to keep my EF ve... (show quote)


Do you mean Dustin Abbott ?

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Dec 24, 2023 18:27:12   #
MountainDave
 
dwmoar wrote:
Do you mean Dustin Abbott ?


yes

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Dec 24, 2023 22:01:39   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
MountainDave wrote:
Macro enthusiasts will argue that the 85's magnification of .5X is not a true macro vs. the 100's 1X or 1.4X in the RF's case. 0.5X is very good and makes the lens more flexible, just not in the same league as the 100.


Yeah, yeah, not a "TRUE" macro. It is close enough for me. I also have a 100 and a 180 that both do 1x.

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