A thought for the day…
Dec 24, 2023 09:06:11 #
Dec 24, 2023 09:55:02 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
lesdmd wrote:
Signing in only so I can follow the evolution of the comments to see how long they remain sane and civil.😉
Didn’t take long for them to go off the deep end. When it comes to faith, you can’t replace stupid with reality.
Dec 24, 2023 09:55:39 #
Reuss Griffiths
Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
Carl Sagan was a brilliant scientist and astronomer who was gifted with the skills to communicate the marvels of our universe in a way that made it understandable to the layman. And he is right about the scientific method in that it is a way of discovering the truth in such matters. But this statement is wrong, arrogant, intolerant and belies the point he is trying to make. Sagan was an atheist which may explain why he needs to find perfection in science itself instead of the Creator of everything he admires including humanity and our infallibilities.
Sadly not a Christmas message.
Sadly not a Christmas message.
Dec 24, 2023 09:56:17 #
13 wrote:
Attic!
Why? Not political or religious in any way.
Now as to anyone that thinks this is an anti-religion post in any manner, it is not, and you are misreading my intention in posting. It’s a comment on the recent anti science crowd, which I think is dangerous for our society. Personally, I have no problem in believing in both the Deity and evolution - I do and find the two completely compatible. It was never my intention to cause a religious debate on Christmas (or any other time), and if you see it that way, maybe the question is why the simple comment about science and evolution offends and threatens you.
Dec 24, 2023 09:56:26 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
xerxesix wrote:
Actually it is the other way round - evolution "created" man and then man created God
And that is the reality of it all.
Dec 24, 2023 10:03:56 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
The anti-evolution comments here are exactly what Sagan is talking about. For too many, it’s an either-or proposition, either it’s religion or science, since both can’t exist in their worldview.
Dec 24, 2023 10:04:19 #
Dec 24, 2023 10:12:16 #
Since the very first comment was “Attic”, where the insane and uncivil reside, I thought the level of discussion would rapidly disintegrate. Not yet!
And I still do not know what the statement “really” implies, especially followed by multiple exclamation points.
And I still do not know what the statement “really” implies, especially followed by multiple exclamation points.
Dec 24, 2023 10:13:29 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
Reuss Griffiths wrote:
Carl Sagan was a brilliant scientist and astronome... (show quote)
To each his own. The faithful have to find perfection in their beliefs in order to validate those beliefs since any deviation would imply that their beliefs can be questioned. Science is not a belief system, it’s a method of thinking and developing explanations for the phenomena we experience around us. I’m an atheist but I don’t begrudge the faithful believing what they believe. I do begrudge their proselytizing though.
Dec 24, 2023 10:16:19 #
Dec 24, 2023 10:16:29 #
MosheR
Loc: New York City
TriX wrote:
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Just signing in to this to see where it goes. My loved one tells me to keep my big trap shut.
Dec 24, 2023 10:18:13 #
Dec 24, 2023 10:18:19 #
13 wrote:
Really!!!! 
The very first comment was “attic”, where the crazies and uncivil reside. I was curious to see when, or if, the discussion would begin to disintegrate
And I still don’t understand your comment, especially with the three exclamation points.
Dec 24, 2023 10:19:57 #
Dec 24, 2023 10:24:20 #
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