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Dec 23, 2023 09:57:37   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
While fishing yesterday I found this delightful little critter crawling on my fishing bag, maybe trying to get out of the snow all around him and me. I think it is a hellgrammite. First one I have ever seen in person.

Dennis


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Dec 23, 2023 10:01:03   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
Put him on your hook and see if anything bites, Dennis.

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Dec 23, 2023 10:03:31   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
kpmac wrote:
Put him on your hook and see if anything bites, Dennis.


Thank you very much. Believe me I did think of that. Nothing else was working though I did bring in an 18 inch brown trout walking back to the truck. He is now doing the eternal rest thing in my freezer for after Christmas.

Dennis

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Dec 23, 2023 10:25:24   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
dennis2146 wrote:
While fishing yesterday I found this delightful little critter crawling on my fishing bag, maybe trying to get out of the snow all around him and me. I think it is a hellgrammite. First one I have ever seen in person.

Dennis


Yes, I used to use them as fish bait !

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Dec 23, 2023 10:35:59   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
imagemeister wrote:
Yes, I used to use them as fish bait !


Thank you imagemeister for stopping by and for the verification. I would do that too if I could only find a few.

I just noticed/paid attention to your avatar. You have your own neat Eagle photo.

Dennis

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Dec 23, 2023 10:39:23   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
Super find and beautiful images of it. Have a lovely Christmas Dennis to you and your family.

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Dec 23, 2023 10:41:20   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
EnglishBrenda wrote:
Super find and beautiful images of it. Have a lovely Christmas Dennis to you and your family.


Thank you very much Brenda for stopping by to take a look and comment. Your comments are always appreciated.
Merry Christmas to you and yours as well.

Dennis

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Dec 23, 2023 11:07:50   #
relbugman Loc: MD/FL/CA/SC
 
A Stonefly naiad, I think, not a Dobsonfly. The latter would have powerful jaws forming about 1/3 of the head (not the giant tongs of an adult male, but short and powerful biters). I think the separate sections of the thorax indicate this also. A Dobsonfly Hellgrammite would be much heavier, bigger, compact, with nearly equal but shorter legs. Stonefly mature larvae crawl out of the water and shed their skin, ready to fly away; Hellgrammites crawl out and dig a hidden place under a rock, etc. and become a pupa that has to reorganize to become an adult

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Dec 23, 2023 11:15:54   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
relbugman wrote:
A Stonefly naiad, I think, not a Dobsonfly. The latter would have powerful jaws forming about 1/3 of the head (not the giant tongs of an adult male, but short and powerful biters). I think the separate sections of the thorax indicate this also. A Dobsonfly Hellgrammite would be much heavier, bigger, compact, with nearly equal but shorter legs. Stonefly mature larvae crawl out of the water and shed their skin, ready to fly away; Hellgrammites crawl out and dig a hidden place under a rock, etc. and become a pupa that has to reorganize to become an adult
A Stonefly naiad, I think, not a Dobsonfly. The l... (show quote)


Thanks rebugman for your comment. Now I am confused beyond all confusion in the arena of bugs etc. I had looked up hellgrammite and there seemed to be a photo of one looking for all the world just like mine. At some point a few of you will come up with a proper name for this thing and I can decide. Please don't take this wrong. I do appreciate your comment. But some say hellgrammite and now you say not. I have no idea.

Dennis

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Dec 23, 2023 12:38:48   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Thanks rebugman for your comment. Now I am confused beyond all confusion in the arena of bugs etc. I had looked up hellgrammite and there seemed to be a photo of one looking for all the world just like mine. At some point a few of you will come up with a proper name for this thing and I can decide. Please don't take this wrong. I do appreciate your comment. But some say hellgrammite and now you say not. I have no idea.

Dennis


Believe Rebugman Dennis

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Dec 23, 2023 13:08:06   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Believe Rebugman Dennis


Thanks. He has been correct in the past.

Dennis

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Dec 23, 2023 22:05:03   #
relbugman Loc: MD/FL/CA/SC
 
Thanks, I really try to give plausible reasons! More than just a name. Where is the ID for Hellgrammite with the Stonefly picture? Check https://bugguide.net/node/view/285183 for the Heller. Check https://bugguide.net/node/view/1569345 for the Stoner.

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Dec 24, 2023 07:14:36   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
So many different variations on a theme called insects ... it amazes me wondering why

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Dec 24, 2023 08:06:56   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
relbugman wrote:
Thanks, I really try to give plausible reasons! More than just a name. Where is the ID for Hellgrammite with the Stonefly picture? Check https://bugguide.net/node/view/285183 for the Heller. Check https://bugguide.net/node/view/1569345 for the Stoner.


Thanks for your further reply relbugman. When I looked them up I also noticed the difference between the two hellgrammites and was going with the stonefly version. I have no problem with your identification at all but with my own identification occasionally.

Maybe next time I will give a try to my Stonefly imitation if it isn't close to dark.

Dennis

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Dec 24, 2023 08:08:39   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
dpullum wrote:
So many different variations on a theme called insects ... it amazes me wondering why


dpullum you bring up a point many of us have most likely often wondered. For my own thinking I know it is just God doing His thing. Other than that I have no answer at all. Thanks for your comment.

Dennis

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