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Dec 18, 2023 09:54:10   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Caribou wrote:
It doesn't seem quite right to me (and I fully support free enterprise). I would rather see them raise the price than being so sneaky about it. You can bet a lot of executives are getting some pretty big bonuses for being so clever.


I'd pay (a bit) more. I want 6 not 5, or 4 not 3. My wife and I eat and thus want things in even numbers. I agree!

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Dec 18, 2023 09:56:07   #
Bison Bud
 
While I understand the need to turn a profit and their use of this marketing strategy, I'd much rather see them raise the price rather the mess with the product. This is especially true when they substitute ingredients and literally change the product, but making the packages smaller also cause problems with time tested recipes, etc. Frankly, I find their "ShrinkFlation" tactics to be rather underhanded and would much prefer to buy the original product at a higher price if needed. It would certainly be less deceptive! However, I guess the majority of the consumer public reacts more to higher prices than to changes in a product and we will all just have to learn to deal with it. Good luck and Happy Holidays to all!

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Dec 18, 2023 10:04:45   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
fourlocks wrote:
We all know food producers have been slowly reducing the volume, but not the price, of the foods we buy. A one pound can of coffee now contains 14 ounces, a 5-pound bag of sugar is now 4 pounds, etc.

The newest ways food producers cheat consumers to keep their profits up is to switch to cheaper ingredients. Sodas once sweetened with sugar now use cheaper corn syrup. Many times, taste suffers and the new ingredients are even less healthy. In some cases, negative customer feedback forced manufacturers to return to their previous ingredients.

Since the '70's I enjoyed Cheez-Its but about 5 years ago they simply stopped tasting cheesy so I stopped buying them. Suddenly this summer, Cheez-Its boxes announced they were "now cheesier" and guess what; they once again taste the same as the old Cheez-Its. I wonder if this is a case where customers forced Cheez-Its to return to their previous formulation. I wish others would do the same.

https://www.businessinsider.com/inflation-high-prices-costs-making-food-snacks-sodas-worse-quality-2023-12
We all know food producers have been slowly reduci... (show quote)


I can only think of one case where the manufacturer reversed their change as to ingredients (not size or amount). Some years back Coca-cola changed their formula and most people did not like the new coke so they went back to the old formula and called that Coke (Coca-cola) Classic. Eventually that just became Coca-cola again and the new coke faded away. Ironically, in Mexico they still use an older yet formula for Coke that was like the US version from the Nineteen Sixties and before that uses Cane Sugar and not the High Fructose Corn Syrup of today's US bottled Coca-cola. Does taste better. I get that when I can. Not sure where others can buy it but it is readily available in California.

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Dec 18, 2023 11:45:03   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
Has anybody noticed how much you get in a packet of Equal that goes in you coffee?
Now, I have to use 3 to get the same sweetness as two.

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Dec 18, 2023 12:00:53   #
rdemarco52 Loc: Wantagh, NY
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
There is only one McDonad's in my town and I quit going there when they put the business emphasis on the drive through window. The last time I got anything there (around two years ago, or more) there were people inside waiting for over half an hour for an order because the manager said to tend to the drive through first and ignore the inside customers.


I have seen that in the McDonalds in my town. I prefer to go inside and order from the kiosk. Many times the wait is long and the order is wrong. The order should be right when ordering from the kiosk because they see exactly what you want on the screen.

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Dec 18, 2023 12:51:22   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
ClarkJohnson wrote:
Gosh darn free enterprise. Imagine the audacity of trying to make a profit. Consumers being cheated because they can’t read the label or make their own choices.

The only “cheating” going on is the quite reasonable decision by manufacturers not to make a big deal about these changes. You will never see advertising that says, “New Smaller Sizes!” or “New Cheaper Ingredients!” Still, consumers that don’t like the product or the prices have the simple recourse of keeping their money in their pockets, as you did with “Cheez-Its.”
Gosh darn free enterprise. Imagine the audacity o... (show quote)


A valid point of view but in the case of a well-liked product that went down in quality, the consumer’s choice is to either suffer the poorer (and maybe unhealthy) product or simply give it up. Not much of a choice. As others here have said, I’d pay more for the higher quality version but the manufacturers don’t give us that choice.

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Dec 18, 2023 14:08:33   #
gouldopfl
 
This is going to continue even though inflation is down quite a bit since this time next year. High meat prices will continue unless the ranchers and farmers increase yields. During the the pandemic, many hogs and cattle had to be pulled because there weren't enough slaughter houses open. They cut herd sizes. Food is very expensive and unless you buy organic, there are all kinds of GMO's and waste in their feed. With higher crop yields this year for corn, it is possible that costs can come down. Our coops in my area, signed a new contract that set the prices in 2019. Then the Pandemic hit. Their costs went through the roof but they couldn't get more money because the contract prices were set.

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Dec 18, 2023 19:22:40   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
ClarkJohnson wrote:
Gosh darn free enterprise. Imagine the audacity of trying to make a profit. Consumers being cheated because they can’t read the label or make their own choices.

The only “cheating” going on is the quite reasonable decision by manufacturers not to make a big deal about these changes. You will never see advertising that says, “New Smaller Sizes!” or “New Cheaper Ingredients!” Still, consumers that don’t like the product or the prices have the simple recourse of keeping their money in their pockets, as you did with “Cheez-Its.”
Gosh darn free enterprise. Imagine the audacity o... (show quote)


And while we're at it, why don't we remove health warnings from tobacco products or from other items. After all we are all smart enough to read the research. As you say it would be reasonable for manufacturers not to make a big deal about those changes. Why have any regulations? Let the strongest hogs at the trough prevail and the hell with everyone else. I don't have a problem with companies being required to be honest about what they sell in term of ingredients and amounts and be required to give notice of changes.

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Dec 18, 2023 20:13:45   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
fourlocks wrote:
We all know food producers have been slowly reducing the volume, but not the price, of the foods we buy. A one pound can of coffee now contains 14 ounces, a 5-pound bag of sugar is now 4 pounds, etc.

The newest ways food producers cheat consumers to keep their profits up is to switch to cheaper ingredients. Sodas once sweetened with sugar now use cheaper corn syrup. Many times, taste suffers and the new ingredients are even less healthy. In some cases, negative customer feedback forced manufacturers to return to their previous ingredients.

Since the '70's I enjoyed Cheez-Its but about 5 years ago they simply stopped tasting cheesy so I stopped buying them. Suddenly this summer, Cheez-Its boxes announced they were "now cheesier" and guess what; they once again taste the same as the old Cheez-Its. I wonder if this is a case where customers forced Cheez-Its to return to their previous formulation. I wish others would do the same.

https://www.businessinsider.com/inflation-high-prices-costs-making-food-snacks-sodas-worse-quality-2023-12
We all know food producers have been slowly reduci... (show quote)




Sodas have been using HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup) for a long time now.(starting in 1980) and then act like it is something special when they come out with a product (Pepsi Throwback) that uses real sugar. They seem to make sure the the words with "with Real Sugar" are slapped on their cans and bottles. Yes Pepsi we are talking about you. For the longest time, to get a Pepsi made with real sugar you had to buy a Mexican Pepsi. (one bottled in Mexico) I have heard though, even they are starting to use HFCS.

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Dec 19, 2023 05:09:55   #
zacksoccer
 
ClarkJohnson wrote:
Gosh darn free enterprise. Imagine the audacity of trying to make a profit. Consumers being cheated because they can’t read the label or make their own choices.

The only “cheating” going on is the quite reasonable decision by manufacturers not to make a big deal about these changes. You will never see advertising that says, “New Smaller Sizes!” or “New Cheaper Ingredients!” Still, consumers that don’t like the product or the prices have the simple recourse of keeping their money in their pockets, as you did with “Cheez-Its.”
Gosh darn free enterprise. Imagine the audacity o... (show quote)



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Dec 19, 2023 06:23:36   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
fourlocks wrote:
We all know food producers have been slowly reducing the volume, but not the price, of the foods we buy. A one pound can of coffee now contains 14 ounces, a 5-pound bag of sugar is now 4 pounds, etc.

The newest ways food producers cheat consumers to keep their profits up is to switch to cheaper ingredients. Sodas once sweetened with sugar now use cheaper corn syrup. Many times, taste suffers and the new ingredients are even less healthy. In some cases, negative customer feedback forced manufacturers to return to their previous ingredients.

Since the '70's I enjoyed Cheez-Its but about 5 years ago they simply stopped tasting cheesy so I stopped buying them. Suddenly this summer, Cheez-Its boxes announced they were "now cheesier" and guess what; they once again taste the same as the old Cheez-Its. I wonder if this is a case where customers forced Cheez-Its to return to their previous formulation. I wish others would do the same.

https://www.businessinsider.com/inflation-high-prices-costs-making-food-snacks-sodas-worse-quality-2023-12
We all know food producers have been slowly reduci... (show quote)


Greed

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Dec 19, 2023 14:29:48   #
ladysue Loc: Rhinebeck, NY
 
It's a sad fact that a downsized amount of product still requires about the same amount of packaging that winds up as landfill waste or pollution in our oceans.

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Dec 20, 2023 03:46:21   #
Greg from Romeoville illinois Loc: Romeoville illinois
 
jiminnee wrote:
This reminds me.....several years a go I used to get a vegetable snack cracker called "vegetable thins" I believe. .


Nabisco has discontinued several items that are not available anymore. Take a look at discontinued Nabisco Products:

Nabisco 100 Calorie Lorna Doone Cookie
Nabisco 100 Calorie Cheese Nips Crackers
Nabisco Oreo Cookies, Chocolate with Cream Center
Nabisco Ritz 100 Calorie Snack
Nabisco Wheat Thins Crackers
Nabisco belVita Soft Baked biscuits with oats and chocolate
Nabisco 100-Cal Thin Crisps Snacks
Nabisco Wheat Thins Crackers, Spicy Buffalo
Nabisco Wheat Thins Crackers, Zesty Salsa
Nabisco Wheat Thins Crackers, Chili Cheese
Nabisco Chips Ahoy Chocolate Chip Cookies
Nabisco Belvita Breakfast Biscuits, Crunchy Blueberry
Nabisco Chips Ahoy Cookies, Chocolate Chip
Nabisco 100 Calorie Packs of Oreo Cookies,
Nabisco Bits Mini Cheese Cracker Sandwiches – Cheese
Nabisco Peanut Butter Cracker Sandwiches – Peanut Butter
Nabisco Mini Chocolate Sandwich Cookies – Vanilla
Nabisco 100-Cal Thin Crisps Snack Packs – Cholesterol-free – Chocolate
Nabisco Double Stuff Cookie Packet – Chocolate
Nabisco Chunky Cookies King Size – Chocolate
Nabisco Mini Chocolate Chip Cookies
Nabisco Mini Bite Chocolate Cookies
Nabisco Thin Crisps, fat-free, low calories chocolate snacks
Nabisco 100 Calorie Oreo Snack Cakes,
Nabisco Honey Maid Lil’ Crackers of Square Graham, Honey flavor
Nabisco Chocolate Chip Cookies
Nabisco Savory Variety Pack, Assorted Cracker Varieties
Nabisco Oreo Minis
Nabisco Ritz Bits, Cheese

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Dec 20, 2023 10:05:28   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
RiJoRi wrote:
I guess that's kind of an advantage to being diabetic – carbohydrates, whether simple (sugar) or complex (starches) make my blood sugar levels skyrocket!
So, only "slow food" for me!


I'm also diabetic and on a pump, but also take pills. I hate how anything that has less or no sugar costs more. A loaf of keto bread (zero net carbs because of fiber) costs $4.29 at Aldi, while a regular loaf of bread is less than $1.25. I just bought a 10-pack of no sugar added hot chocolate. it was about 60% more expensive than the high sugar variety. With some items you pay the same but get less (Carnation instant breakfast - 10 vs.8 packets). It's a big scam to take advantage of people with special health needs. I bet it's even worse for some conditions, like celiac disease.

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Dec 20, 2023 18:15:32   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
Bridges wrote:
Some prices are getting ridiculous! A medium order of french fries at McDonalds is now 4.00! Everyone knows how these fast-food places depend a lot on soda. A 2.00 soda is about .17 to make. Now it seems they are trying to make french fries a major profit item as well. I have all but stopped using fast-food restaurants. A few years ago I would go once or twice a week. Now I may go twice a month, maybe less. When buying a fast-food meal for three people tops 30.00, it's time to quit in my opinion.
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So would you rather they lower the price and then add on a separate charge for labor, another for utilities, another for maintenance, another for taxes, another for shortages, another for...well, you get the idea. You, along with most people, think that a 17¢ hamburger sold for $4.00 = $3.83 profit. Wrong. There is about 4¢ to maybe 6¢ profit in that hamburger by the time all costs and expenses are taken out. If all the fast food joints are selling hamburgers to $4, don't you think McDonald's would LOVE to sell theirs for $3.50? They would, if they could make a decent profit at that price point. They would have customers lined up for miles. BUT it would not be long before all the others figured out how to make a profit at $3.50. Then the advantage would go away and people like you would be griping about paying $3.50 for a hamburger and how unfair it is for any of them to make a profit

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