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Dec 17, 2023 11:46:48   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
zarathu wrote:
OK.... I’m a reasonable woodworker with a wood shop. Normally I don’t sell photos but the MDI Photo Club had a show at Birch Bay(retirement community), and at the show somebody wanted to buy one of my 13 x 19 inch photos.

And so, since it was for someone else, Murphy got involved.

First thing I discovered was that my router would not do the job, too much wood to remove.

Then, I discovered that simple cutting the inside with my table saw did not work. I need a dado blade.

Then I discovered that my old table would break the RSV fence off when the bolt glued itself on by rust.

Then I discovered that I needed to cut to the new blade insert.

Then I discovered that I could not glue up the frame without putting a template on the inside where the glass goes to glue the frame against against or it becomes a RHOMBUS, and one side will not be parallel.

And then I discovered that the hardware store will not cut the glass if it's not square.

And then I discovered that if you use gel stain on the wood instead of strictly water based or oil based, it will form a thick solid top if its not sealed tightly (which is hard to do with gel anyhow)and you can’t get the stain out.

And then, I discovered that if you fall on the ice and need six stitches in your head, you will also break the glass and damage the print and get blood over everything.

And then I discovered that the device that puts the little slips of metal to hold the backing on will break the glass AGAIN if you use it wrong.

And then I discovered that mat board is horribly expensive on Amazon, and that I could cut plastic decking to fit, but that it was almost as expensive as mat board.

And then i discovered mat board for 7.50 each.

And then after ordering 15 pieces for $112, that I HAD GIVEN them the wrong inside diameter, and of course thye would not take them back since it was my error.

And then I order new mat board, with a coupon for $101.

And then I discovered that I COULD NOT FIND a way to put the paper backing on, and so the inside of the frame now needs to be stained when it was not before. Along with this I discovered that it's not a good idea to use a staple gun because unless each one is perpendicular and in the middle it will spit the wood on the outside.

I DID DISCO0VER the nice lady who has been waiting at least a week so far longer than I agreed, is not upset, but does need it by Xmas.

She paid $150. But I have already spent close to $300 to make this one frame.

Of course now I know what not to do.
OK.... I’m a reasonable woodworker with a wood sho... (show quote)
ha!! Yep sounds like a typical home project! I completely relate to that.

For this reason, I have resisted fixing a burner on my stove for fear of triggering a $40,000 kitchen remodeling project.

I like Elon musk’s take on Murphy. Elon says that Murphy, rather than the worst result will of often generate the most entertaining result. Yep.

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Dec 17, 2023 12:12:01   #
george19
 
Maybe you should take up a simpler hobby…like photography 🤧🤧🤧

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Dec 17, 2023 12:13:12   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
george19 wrote:
Maybe you should take up a simpler hobby…like photography 🤧🤧🤧
Simpler? Photography? That has not been my experience!

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Dec 17, 2023 12:39:02   #
pahtspix
 
I overmat a 12.5x18.5 image with a mat of 18x24" with a window cut of approx 12x18", all sandwiched onto a mount of 18x24" fomecore to go into a frame of 18x24" with glass or plexi glazing.. I use Nielsen extruded aluminum frames almost exclusively, and clients seem to like the end-result!

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Dec 17, 2023 13:37:02   #
Barre Loc: Fairfax Co, VA
 
Discovery 101?

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Dec 17, 2023 13:45:43   #
TRAVLR38 Loc: CENTRAL PA
 
I am stunned that no one has mentioned going online to a frame supplier. I use American Frame. I have not ordered recently, as I have an adequate supply now, but if I ever had a problem ordering, I would call and the folks there are very nice, knowledgable, patien, and helpful. I get Nielsen metal frames but once got a wooden frame. They go together very easily.

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Dec 17, 2023 14:01:56   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
TRAVLR38 wrote:
I am stunned that no one has mentioned going online to a frame supplier. I use American Frame. I have not ordered recently, as I have an adequate supply now, but if I ever had a problem ordering, I would call and the folks there are very nice, knowledgable, patien, and helpful. I get Nielsen metal frames but once got a wooden frame. They go together very easily.
there is an old saying which goes something like “never build what you can buy”.

You can’t always buy what you want and in that case, it can make sense to build it. However, if you can buy it, normally it’s costing time effective to simply buy it.

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Dec 17, 2023 14:58:40   #
hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
It's posts like this that remind me how much I hated junior high shop classes....

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Dec 17, 2023 15:42:21   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
hpucker99 wrote:
It's posts like this that remind me how much I hated junior high shop classes....

We raced the belt sanders in shop class. ;)

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Dec 17, 2023 15:48:02   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
JD750 wrote:
there is an old saying which goes something like “never build what you can buy”.

You can’t always buy what you want and in that case, it can make sense to build it. However, if you can buy it, normally it’s costing time effective to simply buy it.


Frames can be fun if you like wood and hanging your own pictures. I did everything but cut the glass for the waterfall. The fox I printed on canvas. It was a quick frame, no glass.

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Dec 17, 2023 15:59:13   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Bill_de wrote:
Frames can be fun if you like wood and hanging your own pictures. I did everything but cut the glass for the waterfall. The fox I printed on canvas. It was a quick frame, no glass.

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Those are really pretty frames and appear to be well done.

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Dec 17, 2023 17:28:27   #
Smoky Loc: Knoxville,TN
 
Ever heard of Hobby Lobby?

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Dec 17, 2023 18:18:03   #
zarathu Loc: Bar Harbor, MDI, Maine
 
dpullum wrote:


Who or what at the MDI Photo Club, came up with 13x19"????


No the MDI Photo Club: ME. That’s the maximum size that my Canon Printer prints at.

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Dec 17, 2023 18:23:40   #
zarathu Loc: Bar Harbor, MDI, Maine
 
JD750 wrote:

For this reason, I have resisted fixing a burner on my stove for fear of triggering a $40,000 kitchen remodeling project.


I remember about 15 years ago when I went to replace the seal on my toilet. I discovered that the joists holding the pipe up were rotted, and then I discovered that the plywood over the joists was also rotted all around the toilet, so in addition to replacing the joists I started in on the underlayment, and then discovered that there was no underlayment under the tile and so I had to add that in the whole bathroom. And then I discovered that the ceramic tile which I care removed(from a previous project) was no longer available, and so I had to get all new tile.

And a bathroom seal led to joists which led to plywood which led to replacement of the entire flooring system in the bathroom.

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Dec 17, 2023 18:25:42   #
Barre Loc: Fairfax Co, VA
 
There's no such thing as a simple project

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