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Oh dear - a puzzle for Christmas season - Dec 2023
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Dec 13, 2023 14:12:33   #
Toby
 
Longshadow wrote:
19


you got it

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Dec 13, 2023 15:36:45   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
John N wrote:
42. Everything equals 42, no matter the question.
OH SNAP !!! He's RIGHT !!!
https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/42

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Dec 13, 2023 15:49:24   #
W3KLS Loc: PA USA
 
twosummers wrote:
Hi there puzzlers - have a go at this one - suggest an answer but DON'T give your method (I want to keep people guessing for a bit) - I'll post the solution in a few days time!

Enjoy


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Dec 13, 2023 17:11:32   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
It’s either 24 or 40. But, I’m not betting on it.

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Dec 13, 2023 17:39:23   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
Solution on page #9

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Dec 13, 2023 17:51:59   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
And this incredible parade of ( - fill in the blank - ) continues, ad infinitum.
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MAN !! I'll have to come up with some simple math puzzle for next year, that may also live forever.
I'm thinking maybe - a song to the tune of Please My Dear Aunt Sally.
(a few will get it - E was not a concept taught in elementary school, so it was excused for recess).

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Dec 13, 2023 18:11:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
whatdat wrote:
It’s either 24 or 40. But, I’m not betting on it.

Be glad you didn't.

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Dec 13, 2023 18:18:44   #
srt101fan
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
And this incredible parade of ( - fill in the blank - ) continues, ad infinitum.
-
MAN !! I'll have to come up with some simple math puzzle for next year, that may also live forever.
I'm thinking maybe - a song to the tune of Please My Dear Aunt Sally.
(a few will get it - E was not a concept taught in elementary school, so it was excused for recess).


Realize that the icons that represent the three numbers in the last equation are not mathematically/logically derived from the three equations above them (The fact that a 4-legged table has the value 4 doesn't mean that a 3-legged table has a value of 3). So the values of the icons in the last equation are indeterminate and the answer can be anything.

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Dec 13, 2023 18:22:53   #
Nile Loc: Seaford, Delaware
 
Twelve

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Dec 13, 2023 18:25:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
srt101fan wrote:
Realize that the icons that represent the three numbers in the last equation are not mathematically/logically derived from the three equations above them (The fact that a 4-legged table has the value 4 doesn't mean that a 3-legged table has a value of 3). So the values of the icons in the last equation are indeterminate and the answer can be anything.

Then I'll make the three legged table 27 and the four rolls 12....

Pick a number, any number, forget any logic or deductive reasoning.

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Dec 13, 2023 19:01:00   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
srt101fan wrote:
Realize that the icons that represent the three numbers in the last equation are not mathematically/logically derived from the three equations above them (The fact that a 4-legged table has the value 4 doesn't mean that a 3-legged table has a value of 3). So the values of the icons in the last equation are indeterminate and the answer can be anything.
Its a LOGIC PUZZLE. Of course, if you insist on existential Diractive Morphisms, you can make this into anything you want. But for those of us grounded in Logical observation, the table is not important. The Legs are the defining factor.
Yes - in all prior examples, the table was 4, the rolls were 6, and the clock was 2.
In the question, however, all 3 changed. The table had 3 legs, there were only 4 rolls, and the clock was 5.
So - IF you insist on Table = 4, Rolls = 6 and Clock = 2, THEN the answer COULD be: 4+4x5 = 24
BUT since ALL of the items changed, one must logically assume the values are connected to some other attribute - namely the Number of Legs on the table, the Number of Rolls, and the Number shown on the clock face.
Thus the only LOGICAL answer is 4+3x5 (PDMAS) = 19.

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Dec 13, 2023 19:09:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Its a LOGIC PUZZLE. Of course, if you insist on existential Diractive Morphisms, you can make this into anything you want. But for those of us grounded in Logical observation, the table is not important. The Legs are the defining factor.
Yes - in all prior examples, the table was 4, the rolls were 6, and the clock was 2.
In the question, however, all 3 changed. The table had 3 legs, there were only 4 rolls, and the clock was 5.
So - IF you insist on Table = 4, Rolls = 6 and Clock = 2, THEN the answer COULD be: 4+4x5 = 24
BUT since ALL of the items changed, one must logically assume the values are connected to some other attribute - namely the Number of Legs on the table, the Number of Rolls, and the Number shown on the clock face.
Thus the only LOGICAL answer is 4+3x5 (PDMAS) = 19.
Its a LOGIC PUZZLE. Of course, if you insist on ex... (show quote)


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Dec 13, 2023 19:35:41   #
srt101fan
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Its a LOGIC PUZZLE. Of course, if you insist on existential Diractive Morphisms, you can make this into anything you want. But for those of us grounded in Logical observation, the table is not important. The Legs are the defining factor.
Yes - in all prior examples, the table was 4, the rolls were 6, and the clock was 2.
In the question, however, all 3 changed. The table had 3 legs, there were only 4 rolls, and the clock was 5.
So - IF you insist on Table = 4, Rolls = 6 and Clock = 2, THEN the answer COULD be: 4+4x5 = 24
BUT since ALL of the items changed, one must logically assume the values are connected to some other attribute - namely the Number of Legs on the table, the Number of Rolls, and the Number shown on the clock face.
Thus the only LOGICAL answer is 4+3x5 (PDMAS) = 19.
Its a LOGIC PUZZLE. Of course, if you insist on ex... (show quote)



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Dec 13, 2023 20:13:16   #
mikee
 
Who knows? Is a timer worth 2 points, or is each minute on a timer worth one point? If a 4 legged table is worth 4 points, does that mean a 3 legged table is worth 3 points, or nothing because it's missing a leg?

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Dec 13, 2023 20:38:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
mikee wrote:
Who knows? Is a timer worth 2 points, or is each minute on a timer worth one point? If a 4 legged table is worth 4 points, does that mean a 3 legged table is worth 3 points, or nothing because it's missing a leg?

Could be x60 for seconds.....
Are three legged tables 2, 3, 6, 8 times as hard to keep stable?

Well, the trend anymore with almost everything seems to be make it/do what/interpret how you want.....
No rhyme, reason, or <valid> logic.

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