Hip Coyote

You’re right. LRC. I goofed. Does the rest of my logic make sense here?

IzzyKap Loc: Rockville, MD

I believe that he retracted and clarified this in a subsequent video:
https://mattk.com/i-screwed-up-yesterday/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=I+Screwed+Up+Yesterday+%28re%3A+Saying+Goodbye+to+LR%29+%F0%9F%93%B7&utm_campaign=Evolving+with+Lightroom+%28Day+2+Podcast%29

Hip Coyote

ok...cool. I spent a few hours on it last nite trying to figure out a few things. LR does not do face recognition, mapping or have the blurb publishing feature. I just tested this: it only allows albums to be made in the cloud, even if the photos are local. What happens is the photos are uploaded to the cloud (obviously so they can be avail). If the user designates the album to be "available offline" it downloads the photos again, somewhere...not sure where at this point.

As I looked at the features of LR ( I often use the LR mobile when traveling but always migrate stuff to my local hard drive) what is clear to me is Adobe is situating LR to push more and more data onto their cloud servers, which translates into $$. For instance, the bulk of Amazon's operating profits come from their cloud services (more than $20 billion a quarter) , not retail. I would not be surprised if Adobe eventually made LR free because the storage is the money maker, not the photo editing software.

Edit: I just watched a part of his video, and he says he does not teach "organization." Fair enough. IMO, that is a huge gap in instruction. Before starring any LR, LRC, or LR mobile, understanding organization is vital. How many times have we seen people on this forum who are totally mixed up on organization, have no organization, do not understand file structure, how to query meta data, etc. Get that out of the way and a whole lot of learning about photo editing can take place. I think he's making a mistake on this.

Anyhoo...nuff said on this topic. Best to all.

one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY

How about "Digital Darkroom"

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

It’s neither dark, nor a room…

one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY

I played with it a bit today. I could easily find images on my HD and edit them like usual in LRC but I missed my second monitor for examination. I learned it helps a lot to know the KB shortcuts. I have a well organized image file system on my Data HD (yr. & date folders) and I use collections/key words to group special events/categories in LRC. I'm not bothered by importing which takes seconds. I export tiff's for printing with Qimage or jpeg's for uploading /sharing. I send a copy w edits to PS or Topaz plug-in when needed and get back a an easily identifiable tiff w the changes.

I read in some tutorial the edits in LR-local are saved to image meta data (sidecar) and changes to file location could cause the meta data/edits to be lost if they are not synchronized correctly. This sounds like the same problem with moving files outside LRC (i.e. not telling the LRC catalog).

one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY

LOL, when I'm editing I'm in a room and it's relatively dark so I don't have monitor brightness too high. Not so much as the old days inside a closed room with only a safelight and lots of wet stuff.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

I don't miss the darkroom at all! I did B&W in a home darkroom for decades, and E6 at work for 8 years, and worked in a massive school portrait lab where C41 and RA-4 were mixed in 1100 gallon drums. I'm very glad I quit doing E6 in 1987 when I changed roles at my company. My contact dermatitis went away in a year. I thought it had been caused by E6, but more likely, it was my latex allergy to the gloves I wore then.

I just hope Adobe kills the naming confusion they started when they rewrote Lightroom Mobile and called it Lightroom, while renaming Lightroom to Lightroom Classic. It was a stupid marketing ploy. Probably THE stupidest I've ever seen. Calling it Photoshop Lightroom doesn't help, either! Is Photoshop called Photoshop Photoshop? No... [end silly rant]

IzzyKap Loc: Rockville, MD

I agree that their renaming is confusing and stupid.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

"....edits in LR-local are saved to image meta data (sidecar) and changes to file location could cause the meta data/edits to be lost if they are not synchronized correctly."

I've not played with it much yet. Like most things I do, I won't throw out one workflow for another. But, I will add the "Local" tab to tools I use.

For experimentation, I opened an image in the Local tab of Lightroom that is in my Classic system. When I went back to Classic I "Syntonized" the folder, checked the metadata box and the edits came through to Classic from LR "Local" via the .xmp.

In other words, you can work an image in LR (cloudy) and still put it into your Classic system when that makes sense.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

"It was a stupid marketing ploy. Probably THE stupidest I've ever seen."

All the real people that design, engineer and do support at Adobe seem to fully agree. Somehow they let a small group of marketers lock themselves in a dark room an make a decision. Nobody seems to know who they were or where they now work!

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Everyone takes credit when things go right. Roaches scatter when problems surface.

jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania

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Not unless Adobe drops Classic and no longer offers it as a valid option.

Joecosentino Loc: Whitesboro, New York

Matt getting paid to say that, I have no need to have photos in the cloud. Check the terms of service to make sure your photos are not feeding firefly and what other ridiculous so called AI crap they come out with. They ruined the spot healing brush in photoshop with the last update all it does now is leave a blurred spot, they want you to use the remove tool.

Tomfl101 Loc: Mount Airy, MD

For occasional edits of a few images, yes PS is fine working from bridge. But when I have hundreds of files to edit I like LR and use it all the time for most of my work using RAW files. When I shoot sports I am most often shooting jpeg and would like a faster workflow that eliminated the import/export feature, while doubling file space with two copies of every image. There must be others that feel the same way. Maybe the folks at Adobe will incorporate that into LR or Bridge someday.