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Dec 7, 2023 15:25:06   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Loved those books..
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Dec 7, 2023 15:34:19   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Longshadow wrote:
It happens....
I myself am not worried about it.



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Dec 7, 2023 15:43:08   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
ddgm wrote:
Franklin W. Dixon was a Pen Name used by various authors who wrote the Hardy Boys, not uncommon then or now.


True. W Dixon was just a placeholder for the many ghost writters of the syndicate.
Still, the ways and characters of the old stories is consistent and somehow predictable. An avid follower of the series tend to believe they know them as real persons, even perhaps a far off friend.

The new writers made them so different and I would say a lesser versions of what they once were that they now feel like a bad neighbor.

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Dec 7, 2023 15:45:11   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Don, the 2nd son wrote:
The world we knew is definitely GONE!


Nice if it was for the better, sadly as technology improves, the quality of men degrades.

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Dec 7, 2023 15:45:42   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Toment wrote:
Loved those books..
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Dec 7, 2023 15:51:14   #
ddgm Loc: Hamilton, Ontario & Fort Myers, FL
 
People from different eras think and act differently. i grew up on a farm and when I tell my kids that my Dad used to pull nails out of old lumber and straighten them and put them in a basket, to reuse, they look at me like I'm making it up or I'm from outer space. I believe that their own experiences would influence how they write.

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Dec 7, 2023 15:53:39   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
therwol wrote:
Not always true. Compare the 1942 film Roxie Hart with the 2002 film Chicago. With all due respect for Ginger Rogers (I'm a big fan of her movies in general.), the 2002 film blows the first one away.

Compare the 1934 film Anne of Green Gables with the amazing films and sequels from the 1980s.

The first Star Trek movie after the TV series really sucked. Those that followed were better.

There are more examples, but I just woke up and can't think of them.


Technology and learning grows. When used to remake old movies, specially the fiction based ones, we get better visuals and cinematography.

But changing the narrative or extending the good stories just for the sake of using the popularity & earning from the previous movie, usually makes for a really bad show that ends in flops & disgrace.

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Dec 7, 2023 18:48:40   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I never did read the Hardy Boys, but enjoyed them on Disney back in the 50's. Too bad the they've been spoiled by new age writers.

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Dec 7, 2023 19:16:10   #
KillroyII Loc: Middle Georgia
 
ddgm wrote:
People from different eras think and act differently. i grew up on a farm and when I tell my kids that my Dad used to pull nails out of old lumber and straighten them and put them in a basket, to reuse, they look at me like I'm making it up or I'm from outer space. I believe that their own experiences would influence how they write.


I am going to claim I was abused. 😝😂😜. While I assisted my dad in pulling the nails, I had to do all of the straightening.

I also took down brick walls and cleaned the mortar off the bricks for re-use.

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Dec 8, 2023 00:59:18   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
ddgm wrote:
People from different eras think and act differently. i grew up on a farm and when I tell my kids that my Dad used to pull nails out of old lumber and straighten them and put them in a basket, to reuse, they look at me like I'm making it up or I'm from outer space. I believe that their own experiences would influence how they write.


Grandpa, Dad and for a time, me, had contracting as the main means of earning and to some degree, we still do that. We gather and keep what can be reused as other waste becomes firewood. Pulling nails to recycle the wood and the nail itself is just another day.

A big contrast to what I see here in the middle east where after the job is completed, they would bury excess materials and even tools in the sand.

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Dec 8, 2023 09:00:56   #
goofybruce
 
My grandfather was "town handyman". Every spring he would show up at our house with the back of his pick-up filled with old lumber, and a couple of 5lb. lb. cans of nails. I would then use the wood to repair/replace/expand the tree house and assorted " look-outs" in the big apple tree in the lane. I would spend many a summer day in that tree-house reading Hardy Boys, as well as Mark Twain, Dickens and Westerns from my other Gram. I even read Bobbsey Twins...

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Dec 8, 2023 09:17:25   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
goofybruce wrote:
My grandfather was "town handyman". Every spring he would show up at our house with the back of his pick-up filled with old lumber, and a couple of 5lb. lb. cans of nails. I would then use the wood to repair/replace/expand the tree house and assorted " look-outs" in the big apple tree in the lane. I would spend many a summer day in that tree-house reading Hardy Boys, as well as Mark Twain, Dickens and Westerns from my other Gram. I even read Bobbsey Twins...


Huckleberry Finn & Tom Sawyer is a great read.
The only book I knew of Dickens is Oliver Twist but have only read that halfway. Finished maybe 3 bobsey twins book too but they are all a blur now.

We had the Companion Library set and each one of those was a great book. Call of the Wild, Black Beauty, Tanglewood tales, Aesops fables etc.
And for several years, my father was subscribing to readers digest. Lots of good books there too.

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Dec 8, 2023 10:56:31   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
Wallen wrote:
I've recently finish reading the Hardy Boys, returning after a very long break. Having finished the series during my first year in high school, I was expecting dejavu or some old feelings but boy was I mistaken. It was like reading a totally unknown and sadly unrelatable characters. Much like the new Macgyver, the Hardy boys are now more arrogant, brash and stupid. Even the way they talk in the book is markedly different, if one was familiar with the originals. Suffice to say, I did not return to meet old friends. Id rather read the old again than the new ones. It still says the writer is Franklin W. Dixon, although it really is a collection of ghost writers, but somehow it does not read like it is. The Dixon I know is dead.
I've recently finish reading the Hardy Boys, retur... (show quote)


When I was growing up I was reading "The Wizard Of OZ" by L. Frank Balm. the movie was a great success. Most folks don't know that there were about 20+ more books of the story.
When L. Frank Balm died his daughter picked up with the stories and books.
I was disappointed that there weren't more movies made of some of the continued stories made.

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Dec 8, 2023 15:32:47   #
goofybruce
 
Wallen wrote:
Huckleberry Finn & Tom Sawyer is a great read.
The only book I knew of Dickens is Oliver Twist but have only read that halfway. Finished maybe 3 bobsey twins book too but they are all a blur now.

We had the Companion Library set and each one of those was a great book. Call of the Wild, Black Beauty, Tanglewood tales, Aesops fables etc.
And for several years, my father was subscribing to readers digest. Lots of good books there too.

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Dec 8, 2023 15:41:12   #
goofybruce
 
In high school, our book reports were based on points, with classics worth more. Got hooked on Dickens (A Tale of Two Cities, David Copperfield, etc.) had highest point value. Did you know th ok se books were originally written as weekly parts of a much longer story. He was paid for each "chapter." At some point, the editor would tell him to wrap it up because he wouldn't pay more. That is why Dickens' books move so slowly in the beginning.

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