Is there a problem with Nikon D3000 series? (Page 5): Why would anyone be arguing about discontinued DSLRinosaurs in November 2023?

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Why would anyone be arguing about discontinued DSLRinosaurs in November 2023?

rcarol

larryepage wrote:

That is a distortion of what I believe and of what... (show quote)

The problem is that I’m having difficulty grasping what you are referring to when you say that “the extra work and struggle is completely unnecessary”. I have used the D3200 and D5200 without all of the difficulty you profess to have. I own and shoot Canon, Nikon, Olympus and Sony. I don’t find any particularly difficult to use but each system is certainly different operationally from the others.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

rcarol wrote:

The problem is that I’m having difficulty grasping what you are referring to when you say that “the extra work and struggle is completely unnecessary”. I have used the D3200 and D5200 without all of the difficulty you profess to have. I own and shoot Canon, Nikon, Olympus and Sony. I don’t find any particularly difficult to use but each system is certainly different operationally from the others.

The higher-end models are designed for working professionals, both the ruggedness and the ergonomics, enabling the photographer to control the exposure settings and AF configuration entirely with one hand, and with the camera raised to their eye in a shooting position. As you move down from these top-tier models, you begin to find one (or more) of the external controls are entirely missing or not positioned as needed for usage of the camera in a shooting position.

So, I understand and agree with some of Larry's assessment of the lower-tier models. But, to say a DX camera about 1/4 the price of a top-tier full-frame model 'sucks' because of these design compromises, that's several bridges too far. Most people would never know what's missing anyways, as they never attempt to develop the finger-dexterity needed to leverage the layout and ergonomics of the pro-models.

sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD

rcarol wrote:

The problem is that I’m having difficulty grasping what you are referring to when you say that “the extra work and struggle is completely unnecessary”. I have used the D3200 and D5200 without all of the difficulty you profess to have. I own and shoot Canon, Nikon, Olympus and Sony. I don’t find any particularly difficult to use but each system is certainly different operationally from the others.

According to the author, using a low-end camera is a tragedy. Had I known that before I became involved with photography probably would have been better off with crocheting.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

Ok. Im willing to discuss and defend things I actially say. I'm even quite to acknowledge when I'm wrong. I'm not willing to continue with this idiocy.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

larryepage wrote:

That is a distortion of what I believe and of what... (show quote)

All digital cameras allow quick and easy adjustments.

srt101fan

CHG_CANON wrote:

The higher-end models are designed for working pro... (show quote)

Excellent comment!

srt101fan

larryepage wrote:

Ok. Im willing to discuss and defend things I actially say. I'm even quite to acknowledge when I'm wrong. I'm not willing to continue with this idiocy.

Maybe the idiocy started with your comment and your obsessive need to express your dislike of the low-end Nikon cameras.

You must be a real pain at a car dealership, complaining about a Chevy not having Ferrari features....

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

srt101fan wrote:

Maybe the idiocy started with your comment and your obsessive need to express your dislike of the low-end Nikon cameras.

You must be a real pain at a car dealership, complaining about a Chevy not having Ferrari features....

rjriggins11 Loc: Colorado Springs, CO

Bohica wrote:

I like to check local sale sites, Craigslist, FB Market place, etc. Most, at least 90% of the Nikons are D3200 with a few D3000, D3300 and D3400. Prices range from $139-$350. Is there a reason so many people want to dump the D3000 series? Found a D40 and a D70 at around a $100, no single or triple digit series.

I would avoid the D3000's but the others are ok as long as the shutter count is low enough. They make good starter cameras.

therwol Loc: USA

robertjerl wrote:

D3000 first released in 2009, only the D3500 is still on Nikon's site. 5000 and 7000 series are current.

I did some research. Nikon has the D3500 and D5600 for sale on their web site. They also have the D7200. All of these cameras have been officially discontinued by Nikon, so I suspect they're selling off inventory, and if they still have any inventory, I suspect that no one wants to buy them for brand new prices. I know that the D500 is also discontinued, but I haven't read anything about the D7500, D780, D850 or D6 in terms of any official announcements.

Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC

therwol wrote:

I did some research. Nikon has the D3500 and D5600 for sale on their web site. They also have the D7200. All of these cameras have been officially discontinued by Nikon, so I suspect they're selling off inventory, and if they still have any inventory, I suspect that no one wants to buy them for brand new prices. I know that the D500 is also discontinued, but I haven't read anything about the D7500, D780, D850 or D6 in terms of any official announcements.

I hope the D7500 hangs around a bit because it can safely accept pre-Ai lenses in case there are still folks out there not using them for doorstops . The bad part is you have set the ISO, aperture, and shutter speed. Even worse, you have to actually focus the camera. But, at least it works!

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

larryepage wrote:

When our school cameras are used by students, they are not allowed to reassign buttons or otherwise reconfigure the cameras. If one of them knew how to do it and then put it back, we would, of course, never know.

I would be the devious chap who would download and actually read the frigging manual, so I could do just that!

I was wired that way as a little kid, and it has served me well. I pissed off a few clueless teachers along the way, but all except one got over it. Most appreciated it, winking as they publicly admonished me for bending the rules.

Fast forward to my adulthood, where learning how every system and production machine worked in the photo lab I worked for was my super power. I was in management, so my employees in the lab doing the work respected that.

Learning your gear inside out, upside down, and backwards is a good way to add leverage to your technical skills. The process of that learning is boring... until you GET IT. Then it becomes fascinatingly essential. Deep knowledge of the craft, the art, the business, as well as the technology, is what stands people apart in any field. Unfortunately, it's a rare quality.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Retina wrote:

I hope the D7500 hangs around a bit because it can safely accept pre-Ai lenses in case there are still folks out there not using them for doorstops . The bad part is you have set the ISO, aperture, and shutter speed. Even worse, you have to actually focus the camera. But, at least it works!

All my Nikon lenses are pre AI except one.
They work just fine to this day on my R7.

Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC

Architect1776 wrote:

All my Nikon lenses are pre AI except one.
They work just fine to this day on my R7.

It's too hard to have a discussion when definitions change.