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Nov 20, 2023 11:50:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Well...a fool and his money are soon parted.

Depends on the subscriptions and their relative importance I suppose...
Like:
Norton;
Disney +;
MS Office 365;
PBS;
Brit Box;
XM radio;
Ancestry.com;
Carbonite;
...

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Nov 20, 2023 11:59:12   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
Photographers today face a troubling predicament – essential software that can only be accessed through expensive subscriptions plans. While I'm not a professional photographer, it appears that many on UHH are professional.

https://fstoppers.com/business/someone-please-save-us-photographers-all-these-subscriptions-649634


Shameless rant:

Last I checked, a roll of Kodak film costs $10.00 to $18.00 these days. That's without processing. If you use and process a roll every other month, that's about like paying for the least expensive Adobe Photography Plan.

A subscription to Photoshop, Lightroom, Lightroom Classic, and Bridge costs $10/month. It's some of the best software on the planet. Developers have worked hard on it continuously for decades! Of course they charge for it. They get to eat, too.

Why does half the world not understand that you get what you pay for? Why do people not understand that they NEVER BOUGHT software, they only LICENSED IT? It is intellectual property, just like music, books, photographic images, and formulas for patented drugs.

The computing world isn't like the tool world, where you can buy a hammer and use it for life, or until it breaks, whichever comes first. Computers, operating systems, and software evolve rapidly — more and more rapidly every year. When that old computer running Photoshop 4 dies, good luck finding a new one OR an old one that will run Ps 4. And good luck activating your license on the new machine...

HACKERS and malcontents develop dangerous malware more cleverly all the time, too. So the computer you bought a decade ago with Win 7 or MacOS 10.9 Mavericks on it is no longer safe on the Internet. Chances are, hackers have found security holes in all the Adobe software from that era, too.

It is a continual battle to keep up with security. The market life of a computer is around five years. The market life of an operating system is not much longer. Everything needs an update now and then, and an upgrade when updates are not enough.

If you want free software, download some open source stuff, like Dark Table. Good luck getting help, training, and support...

Alternatively, you can use the stuff that came on your computer, or that is a free download from Microsoft, Apple, or your camera manufacturer.

There. I feel better, now.

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Nov 20, 2023 12:04:47   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
There are costs to life.


Some of them are necessary and some not.

Some of them make life easier or more enjoyable and some are just costs.

Costs that are probably necessary: Utilities (water, electricity, sewage, real estate taxes [if you rent you pay the taxes through your landlord if not directly]).
Costs that are probably not necessary for everyone but desirable to maintain quality of life: transportation, heat, insurance
Costs that are not necessary for amateur photographers: camera bodies and lenses, software
Costs that are probably necessary for professional photographers: camera bodies and lenses, software. These are reimbursable costs paid by your clients (indirectly).
Costs that are absolutely NOT necessary for anyone: style, fashion (My opinion here -- there may be people for whom these costs are reimbursable professional costs).
Costs of hobbies: fishing, golf, going to sports events or concerts, travel.
I'm sure there are costs I have not enumerated that some could add to my list.

Most of the complaints about subscriptions I hear here are unnecessary costs that make life easier. Again, my opinion. Adobe Photography Plan costs are small enough that they do not impact me.

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Nov 20, 2023 12:13:24   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
bsprague wrote:
Alex, the author of that article, must be young. He does must not have the photographers life experience to judge value.

The Adobe photographer's plan has abundant tools stuffed in for $10 a month. I don't count the cost of a computer because I need one of those anyway. We don't buy film anymore.

If Alex had the experience of a full, film and paper based darkroom, he would know that $10 a month is cheap. It has been awhile, but my color capable darkroom of the '70s cost me thousands. Chemicals were more than the Adobe subscription.

Alex also whines about the Adobe $60 a month Professional Plans. That is not photography! It includes all the tools for videography and high end graphic arts and production. Anybody want to guess what movie editing used to cost? The graphic arts part is for people paid to make things like wine labels, brochures and magazines. In other words, if you have the skills, you can be in a real business with software costs of only $60 a month paid to Adobe!
Alex, the author of that article, must be young. ... (show quote)


Well said!

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Nov 20, 2023 12:20:33   #
kotography4u
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
Photographers today face a troubling predicament – essential software that can only be accessed through expensive subscriptions plans. While I'm not a professional photographer, it appears that many on UHH are professional.

https://fstoppers.com/business/someone-please-save-us-photographers-all-these-subscriptions-649634


Subscriptions in every area of life are becoming more and more prolific. A friend recently pointed out to me that cars are going the subscription route as well - if you want cruise control, among other examples, you subscribe for it and pay a monthly fee to have it in new cars. I can't imagine where it will go next.

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Nov 20, 2023 12:24:06   #
srg
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
Photographers today face a troubling predicament – essential software that can only be accessed through expensive subscriptions plans. While I'm not a professional photographer, it appears that many on UHH are professional.

https://fstoppers.com/business/someone-please-save-us-photographers-all-these-subscriptions-649634


Fake news belongs in the attic where your other posts are.

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Nov 20, 2023 13:17:01   #
Canisdirus
 
Longshadow wrote:
Depends on the subscriptions and their relative importance I suppose...
Like:
Norton;
Disney +;
MS Office 365;
PBS;
Brit Box;
XM radio;
Ancestry.com;
Carbonite;
...


None of that is about photography...

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Nov 20, 2023 13:23:18   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The Adobe subscription is industrial-strength, professional-grade software. They're not made for the casual user who expects to sitdown and click around and pick it up. Most of the other pay-for software is the same level of complexity. A distinguishing characteristic of Adobe and the other upper-tier titles is the amount of training support and the size of their user communities. Adobe is both the oldest and the largest community. There's a lot to be said for that wealth of accumulated knowledge readily and freely available as you start your learning and usage.

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Nov 20, 2023 13:24:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Canisdirus wrote:
None of that is about photography...

True,
It is about the cumulative effect of multiple subscriptions.
But I suppose if one segregated each subscription item by function ONLY,
it's only ONE at $10.....
I suppose I can justify a lot more subscription expenses that way.

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Nov 20, 2023 13:42:50   #
Canisdirus
 
Longshadow wrote:
True,
It is about the cumulative effect of multiple subscriptions.
But I suppose if one segregated each subscription item by function ONLY,
it's only ONE at $10.....
I suppose I can justify a lot more subscription expenses that way.


Or...you could just read the thread headline...

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Nov 20, 2023 13:48:16   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
It's so easy to go along, be part of the crowd, to subscribe ...

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Nov 20, 2023 13:51:10   #
gouldopfl
 
I agree. I moved to Luminar products and Neo does a good job and every new release gets better. They release several releases a year with both new features ( minor and major ) plus bug fixes or improvements. I think my subscription is about 89.00 a year.

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Nov 20, 2023 13:52:50   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's so easy to go along, be part of the crowd, to subscribe ...


It seems the anti-subscription people are a pretty large crowd themselves and many go along with them.

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Nov 20, 2023 14:04:09   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Or...you could just read the thread headline...

Or, you could widen your horizon.....

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Nov 20, 2023 14:11:04   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The best subscriptions are to those things you cannot buy.

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