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Nov 17, 2023 09:31:46   #
Canisdirus
 
Stephan G wrote:
Symbol - as in representation. (Not "substitute".)


Since no one thinks it is...next.

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Nov 17, 2023 09:51:31   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
Stephan G wrote:
Just a reminder: The flag is just a symbol. All the comments about it being more than that need to read the Preamble to the US Constitution.

I fly the flag because I choose to. The rest is also up to me, as well.



But the preamble is just a piece of paper and so is the Bible?
What are you thinking, do you know what the flag stands for?

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Nov 17, 2023 10:06:06   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
I Guess I'm one of the ones that don't take it in. I'm a veteran but at 91 I'd rather keep it out as I can't take it in and out all the time.

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Nov 17, 2023 10:09:22   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
PS how many of you watch pro football and they won't stand for the national anthem. They get around it now but they are dead in my book. I still do College Football

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Nov 17, 2023 10:24:05   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Stephan G wrote:
Just a reminder: The flag is just a symbol. All the comments about it being more than that need to read the Preamble to the US Constitution.

I fly the flag because I choose to. The rest is also up to me, as well.



There is nothing in the Preamble concerning the flag. If you’re referring to the clause containing “liberty”, liberty (in many respects) is not limitless, but of course, within certain bounds, you are free to indulge in bad taste, poor judgement or disrespect for our National flag. Have you served? If so, you should understand the importance of that symbol since for those of us who have served (and been injured or died) to protect that liberty, disrespect for the flag is a matter we take seriously. If you have not, then please have the good grace to respect the traditions of those who have. Perhaps “Just” a symbol to you, but something much more important to us.

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Nov 17, 2023 10:30:32   #
Stephan G
 
sodapop wrote:
But the preamble is just a piece of paper and so is the Bible?
What are you thinking, do you know what the flag stands for?


The flag is not the country. And the country is not the flag.

The Preamble is the authorization for the setting up the government of the USA, a contract, if you will.

Bit of trivia: What do the stars, fields, and bars on the USA flag represent?

(Hint: Check local historical books.)

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Nov 17, 2023 10:38:59   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Just a symbol...

Not sure you understand how powerful that is...in either direction.


👍

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Nov 17, 2023 10:45:56   #
Stephan G
 
TriX wrote:
There is nothing in the Preamble concerning the flag. If you’re referring to the clause containing “liberty”, liberty (in many respects) is not limitless, but of course, within certain bounds, you are free to indulge in bad taste, poor judgement or disrespect for our National flag. Have you served? If so, you should understand the importance of that symbol since for those of us who have served (and been injured or died) to protect that liberty, disrespect for the flag is a matter we take seriously. If you have not, then please have the good grace to respect the traditions of those who have. Perhaps “Just” a symbol to you, but something much more important to us.
There is nothing in the Preamble concerning the fl... (show quote)


I am a veteran.

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Nov 17, 2023 10:46:22   #
Canisdirus
 
Stephan G wrote:
The flag is not the country. And the country is not the flag.

The Preamble is the authorization for the setting up the government of the USA, a contract, if you will.

Bit of trivia: What do the stars, fields, and bars on the USA flag represent?

(Hint: Check local historical books.)


You keep making straw man arguments...no one thinks the flag is the country.

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Nov 17, 2023 10:49:46   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
xt2 wrote:
Wow, quite a long discussion…boredom setting in anyone…


And yet you're still here, on page 3.

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Nov 17, 2023 12:05:00   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
scallihan wrote:
I have noticed people displaying the Stars & Stripes irreverently, which is surprising in my 55+ community where most of the men and many of the women are veterans. They consider themselves patriotic, but still leave the flag out in the rain (we're in Oregon, fellas, it's gonna rain!), snow or high winds. If it is an all-weather flag, it can be left out, properly illuminated at night. Do not allow it to touch the ground. Dispose of it respectfully when it becomes ratty - veterans' organizations will do that for you.

If you are diaying any other flag, that would go below the Stars & Stripes, and to the right of it, and smaller.
I have noticed people displaying the Stars & S... (show quote)


Here's the flag code. I've been involved with marching groups through the years and there are definitely rights and wrongs in display.

https://governor.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2023-05/flagcode.pdf

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Nov 17, 2023 13:00:06   #
Schoee Loc: Europe
 
Tinker wrote:
Perhaps bwana, whose address appears to make him/her a Canadian, would be well advised to leave the discussion of etiquette regarding the US flag to US citizens, particularly those who have spent time in its defense. If bwana is indeed a relocated US person, then apologies and observation withdrawn.


The etiquette is applicable to most countries.

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Nov 17, 2023 13:58:35   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
scallihan wrote:
I have noticed people displaying the Stars & Stripes irreverently, which is surprising in my 55+ community where most of the men and many of the women are veterans. They consider themselves patriotic, but still leave the flag out in the rain (we're in Oregon, fellas, it's gonna rain!), snow or high winds. If it is an all-weather flag, it can be left out, properly illuminated at night. Do not allow it to touch the ground. Dispose of it respectfully when it becomes ratty - veterans' organizations will do that for you.

If you are displaying any other flag, that would go below the Stars & Stripes, and to the right of it, and smaller.
I have noticed people displaying the Stars & S... (show quote)


Unless it's the Texas Flag. By agreement on annexation the Texas Flag would fly at the same height as the United States Flag.

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Nov 17, 2023 16:25:28   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Stephan G wrote:
I am a veteran.


And yet you have no special respect for the flag, or am I misunderstanding you?

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Nov 17, 2023 17:11:24   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
scallihan wrote:
Most people don't fly other nation's flags though. But good point.

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