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Nov 15, 2023 08:54:55   #
srt101fan
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
Adding a transistor radio would make the kid even happier. Or maybe a Ford Pinto! This is the 21st century, at least for some of us.


If you're going to respond to my question at least try to answer it.

But maybe you just don't understand it...

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Nov 15, 2023 09:01:30   #
MDI Mainer
 
srt101fan wrote:
If you're going to respond to my question at least try to answer it.

But maybe you just don't understand it...


And you definitely didn't understand the answer as it was cloaked in sarcasm.

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Nov 15, 2023 09:44:53   #
srt101fan
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
And you definitely didn't understand the answer as it was cloaked in sarcasm.


Sorry if I misunderstood. I wish there was an emoji for sarcasm. ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ

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Nov 15, 2023 09:57:39   #
SteveFranz Loc: Durham, NC
 
Per the online ads, 48 Megapixel camera with 32 GB memory card? What's that, maybe 2 or 3 pictures?

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Nov 15, 2023 13:02:29   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
SteveFranz wrote:
Per the online ads, 48 Megapixel camera with 32 GB memory card? What's that, maybe 2 or 3 pictures?


I'm concerned about your experiences in modern digital photography and / or math ...

Page 362 of the D850 User's Manual is an easy comparison. The JPEG capacity of the largest 45MP files are roughly 1900 to a 64GB card. So, our candidate camera and photographer could expect 700 to 800 images on a 32GB card. Our trendy teen u-tuber probably won't capture stills at all, but 700 JPEGs is probably more than enough. She's no UHH greybeard, worried about RAW and software subscriptions ....

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Nov 15, 2023 15:17:15   #
BebuLamar
 
SteveFranz wrote:
Per the online ads, 48 Megapixel camera with 32 GB memory card? What's that, maybe 2 or 3 pictures?


Even with raw files a 48MP image raw with 14 bit depth and no compression would be 96MB. A 32GB card would hold at least 320 of those images. A whole lot more if they are JPEG's.

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Nov 15, 2023 16:39:34   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
And you definitely didn't understand the answer as it was cloaked in sarcasm.


So many people on here should go troll elsewhere, instead of wasting everyone's time sifting through he's bs

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Nov 16, 2023 11:12:30   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
mikenolan wrote:
Our 16 year old granddaughter has requested some kind of digital camera for Christmas, she wants one that is lightweight but still has ISO/aperture/shutter speed controls. It should accept filters but does not necessarily need to support interchangeable lenses, but a step up from iPhone or point-and-shoot cameras. (I think lightweight is a key consideration.)

One that she suggested is the NEZINI 4K digital camera, not a brand I am familiar with.

Any suggestions?


Nezini is not a brand that inspires confidence... in performance, serviceability, repairability, and future.

I would suggest she read through the comparison reviews of cameras in her/your budgetary price range, and suggest some. Go to DPReview:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-cameras-under-1000
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ <<< This is access to all their reviews.

There are plenty of good USED choices from reliable, reputable used dealers such as KEH.com, MPB.com, UsedPhotoPro.com, Adorama, and B&H. Look for a six month warranty and check the shipping and return policies when comparing prices. Those five dealers have very conservative ratings criteria.

It is probably not so important that she get a "do-all, be-all" camera when starting out. A reasonably low-priced camera that can be considered tradable or disposable in a few years would be my recommendation. Just because you start with one brand and model, does not mean you shouldn't change course, later. NOT spending a lot on the first camera makes that later transition โ€” when you KNOW what you need โ€” easier.

One thing she needs to consider: Any choice other than a smartphone will require a bit of reading and practice to master. Photography is a skill, just like playing a musical instrument.

Understanding light, understanding "the exposure triangle," understanding how meters work, understanding depth of field and how focal length and aperture and format change it... Those and other concepts will be necessary to learn โ€” to get great results from an adjustable camera. On top of that, add the concepts of composition, using color and contrast, perspective, moment, and all the other visual skills that go into great photography.

Learning all that can seem like a bit of work to a teen in the 21st century! They weren't trivial concepts 55 years ago when I started learning them seriously, although cameras were simpler. Learn the phrase, "RTFM" or Read The *Fine* Manual, and read some books as well as the camera manual. (If a camera does not come with a manual, it can be found online as a downloadable PDF, at the manufacturer's website!)

Above all, tell her not to give up on it... Keep trying. Keep learning. Practice. She should be a ruthless critic of her own work. Feed the mind โ€” DEVOUR good photos in books, magazines, galleries, museums, and online.

One more category to consider is the computer she will use to download and edit her images... Owning a digital camera without access to a computer is frustrating.

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Nov 16, 2023 13:58:43   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
Whatever camera that she gets, she will be in that system. Nikon, Canon Sony, or whatever. So she needs to find out what feels right for her. \Have her read up a bit, go to a camera store. She has to decide.

Think mirrorless, because DSLRs are pretty much over. She might as well learn on the new system.

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Nov 16, 2023 14:52:39   #
mikee
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Or, just take the same amount of money and flush it down the toilet ...


I learned with FILM, transitioned to bigger FILM, and entered the digital world with a D80, and it worked fine for me. She doesn't need a Nikon d6, or Z-something, to learn the basics and figure out if this is going to be an ongoing interest or flash in the pan. But, I guess you know better because...

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Nov 16, 2023 15:09:22   #
jjanovy Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
mikenolan wrote:
Our 16 year old granddaughter has requested some kind of digital camera for Christmas, she wants one that is lightweight but still has ISO/aperture/shutter speed controls. It should accept filters but does not necessarily need to support interchangeable lenses, but a step up from iPhone or point-and-shoot cameras. (I think lightweight is a key consideration.)

One that she suggested is the NEZINI 4K digital camera, not a brand I am familiar with.

Any suggestions?


I suggest something like a Nikon D3400 with an 18-300mm lens. The purists on UHH will go ballistic with this recommendation, but for a beginner, you want flexibility, especially with composition and decision-making. There is enough functionality in that kind of a camera to serve as a great learning tool, if she decides to get more serious about her art in the future. I'm sure there are Canon equivalents to the D3400, but stop by Rockbrook Camera at 70th and Pioneer and talk with the folks there. Or, take her into that store and mention this recommendation as well as the reasons for it. For a beginner, the images will be good, but the flexibility and decision-making options are what will make her the artist.

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Nov 20, 2023 12:38:13   #
Chano Loc: Houston, Texas, USA
 
It looks like the retro Fuji x series cameras, except the Fuji x series is a much better camera. But cost 8-16x more. Right now the Nizini is $95 on Amazon. Not bad if sheโ€™s not sure she really wants to learn photography.

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Nov 20, 2023 15:11:22   #
rcarol
 
Chano wrote:
It looks like the retro Fuji x series cameras, except the Fuji x series is a much better camera. But cost 8-16x more. Right now the Nizini is $95 on Amazon. Not bad if sheโ€™s not sure she really wants to learn photography.


The Nizini is a piece of junk. It is a toy, nothing more. Most of the specs are pure fantasy. Stay away from this at all costs. If you're determined to throw $95 away, send it to me instead.

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