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Nov 15, 2023 18:19:44   #
Nigel7 Loc: Worcestershire. UK.
 
If it amuses you please sit at home asking AI to create images for you. But please do not call it photography and do not pretend that you have captured/created that image. Personally I cannot imagine getting any satisfaction from this. What a waste of the 50+ years I have spent learning my craft.

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Nov 15, 2023 18:27:19   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
Nigel7 wrote:
If it amuses you please sit at home asking AI to create images for you. But please do not call it photography and do not pretend that you have captured/created that image. Personally I cannot imagine getting any satisfaction from this. What a waste of the 50+ years I have spent learning my craft.

Do you realise that there are those amongst us who have the interest and intelligence to learn more than one craft?

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Nov 15, 2023 18:54:03   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
singleshot wrote:
I really don't give a squat.


So why did you bother to post anything?

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Nov 15, 2023 19:13:58   #
srt101fan
 
Canisdirus wrote:
I didn't...it was just...inane.


The point I try to make with the colonoscopy comment is that there are many different kinds of photography - portraiture, photojournalism, product photography, nature photography, landscape photography, astrophotography, macrophotography, sports photography, studio photography, etc, etc.

The various kinds of photography may require different equipment and most certainly require different approaches. This should of course be obvious. But think of how often folks post comments delivered as universal photographic truths when in fact they only apply to a fraction of the photographic world. In my opinion that's not good for folks trying to learn.

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Nov 15, 2023 19:24:31   #
Canisdirus
 
srt101fan wrote:
The point I try to make with the colonoscopy comment is that there are many different kinds of photography - portraiture, photojournalism, product photography, nature photography, landscape photography, astrophotography, macrophotography, sports photography, studio photography, etc, etc.

The various kinds of photography may require different equipment and most certainly require different approaches. This should of course be obvious. But think of how often folks post comments delivered as universal photographic truths when in fact they only apply to a fraction of the photographic world. In my opinion that's not good for folks trying to learn.
The point I try to make with the colonoscopy comme... (show quote)


Yes...common knowledge...none of it will be protected from AI.

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Nov 15, 2023 22:12:54   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Anthony padua wrote:
So the days of f stops shutter speed focus are over it is amazing what AI can do.!!!


Welcome to cellphone photography

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Nov 15, 2023 22:35:30   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
twosummers wrote:
Hi my friends - I've been absent from the site for a few months trying to get my head around all of this AI stuff. Maybe I'm just getting old (I am) but it is truly frightening. From a photography interest perspective I have been looking at 2 applications - one is called DALL-E and the other is Midjourney. Here's the scary part - I spent some time writing a prompt (you have to tell these AI machines what to do) - let's say you want a photograph - it can be just a regular one or an exiting one (say for a poster or an advertisement). The prompts can be what you need the photo to depict, the aspect ratio, camera model, lens, aperture, filter, shutter speed, weather, location - you can be as creative as you like. So from a prompt of about 50 words I got this image in a few seconds! If you are a graphic designer (for example) you've just saved yourself a bunch of time and brainpower. I read today that images of people created by AI cannot be distinguished from real photographs.......
Hi my friends - I've been absent from the site for... (show quote)


To wrap things up, AI generated images are just that, Images.

They are not photographs but bits and pieces gathered from billions of photographs & images floating in the net. Hence, they will never replace photography, which is mainly about capturing moments.
AI is not capturing anything. It is creating a visual representation out of words.
Even the AI photo enhancement works the same way. It tries to find or recreate a similar looking but better resolution equivalent and paste/blend that over the photo to be enhanced.

If there be any work that will be hugely impacted by AI, it would be the graphic designers, not the photographers.
If one wants to peek into the world of graphics designers, play with AI. That is basically what they do. They provide images out of ideas for adverts, product hero, glamour touch-ups & etc.

As for photography, keep enjoying it.
If there would be a line that photographers can gain from AI, it would be creating a visual template to aim for.
Use the AI produced image as a composition guide map to reproduce as a good quality photograph.

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Nov 16, 2023 07:45:21   #
Canisdirus
 
Wallen wrote:
To wrap things up, AI generated images are just that, Images.

They are not photographs but bits and pieces gathered from billions of photographs & images floating in the net. Hence, they will never replace photography, which is mainly about capturing moments.
AI is not capturing anything. It is creating a visual representation out of words.
Even the AI photo enhancement works the same way. It tries to find or recreate a similar looking but better resolution equivalent and paste/blend that over the photo to be enhanced.

If there be any work that will be hugely impacted by AI, it would be the graphic designers, not the photographers.
If one wants to peek into the world of graphics designers, play with AI. That is basically what they do. They provide images out of ideas for adverts, product hero, glamour touch-ups & etc.

As for photography, keep enjoying it.
If there would be a line that photographers can gain from AI, it would be creating a visual template to aim for.
Use the AI produced image as a composition guide map to reproduce as a good quality photograph.
To wrap things up, AI generated images are just th... (show quote)


Except your conclusion is...delusional.

AI will completely take over still pro photography statistically...hobby?...few care...but AI will dominate there as well.

Folks will choose the path of least resistance...like we always have...that's AI.

There are trillions being spent on AI...right now...many trillions to come.

AI hasn't even gotten started yet.

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Nov 16, 2023 07:59:08   #
srt101fan
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Except your conclusion is...delusional.

AI will completely take over still pro photography statistically...hobby?...few care...but AI will dominate there as well.

Folks will choose the path of least resistance...like we always have...that's AI.

There are trillions being spent on AI...right now...many trillions to come.

AI hasn't even gotten started yet.


AI will completely take over still pro photography statistically.

There you go generalizing again, ignoring the many different types of photography. Need I mention colonoscopy imaging again?

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Nov 16, 2023 08:02:20   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Except your conclusion is...delusional.

AI will completely take over still pro photography statistically...hobby?...few care...but AI will dominate there as well.

Folks will choose the path of least resistance...like we always have...that's AI.

There are trillions being spent on AI...right now...many trillions to come.

AI hasn't even gotten started yet.


Please explain in detail how AI creates, without recording anything in real time, an image of me standing next to my classic car at a local car show; an image of my daughter kissing her new husband at their wedding in the quaint little local church; or any of a billion other images of real things and real people happening in real time. I have to know when to trash my cameras and brush on my prompt syntax...

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Nov 16, 2023 08:12:59   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
terryMc wrote:
Please explain in detail how AI creates, without recording anything in real time, an image of me standing next to my classic car at a local car show; an image of my daughter kissing her new husband at their wedding in the quaint little local church; or any of a billion other images of real things and real people happening in real time. I have to know when to trash my cameras and brush on my prompt syntax...

Stretching things a bit?
I know you know what they are talking about.......
AI can't create pictures of YOUR bunions either.
But if you describe yourself in detail it may be able to do that in the future.
You know, like describing someone to a police artist.

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Nov 16, 2023 08:21:21   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Except your conclusion is...delusional.

AI will completely take over still pro photography statistically...hobby?...few care...but AI will dominate there as well.

Folks will choose the path of least resistance...like we always have...that's AI.

There are trillions being spent on AI...right now...many trillions to come.

AI hasn't even gotten started yet.



People who believe that, still believe that digital photography will someday out pace film photography. Many photo magazines from 30 or so years ago assured us that film will always rule. You just can't take my Kodachrome away!

Have a good day everybody.

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Nov 16, 2023 08:24:15   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
AI won't replace photography, it will augment it.

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Nov 16, 2023 08:28:43   #
imagextrordinair Loc: Halden, Norway
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Except your conclusion is...delusional.

AI will completely take over still pro photography statistically...hobby?...few care...but AI will dominate there as well.

Folks will choose the path of least resistance...like we always have...that's AI.

There are trillions being spent on AI...right now...many trillions to come.

AI hasn't even gotten started yet.


Someday there will be no more photographers... Anyone will be able to talk to a Mirror-less, global shutter, AI powered camera and command to do anything including editing in camera.

At some point robots will be be better programed and be more adaptive to future camera design, replacing expensive humans, but that's another subject.

Backgrounds, enhancements, AI generated replacements, and fantasy will be things that will be automatic and bring great joy to our next generation, their pets and family robots.

Communicating with an AI camera will become annoying and will prompt privacy concerns, but with venue restrictions initiated by our politicians for things like news releases and sporting events, reprogramming the robot photographers of 2030 will be swift and painless...

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Nov 16, 2023 08:46:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
imagextrordinair wrote:
Someday there will be no more photographers... Anyone will be able to talk to a Mirror-less, global shutter, AI powered camera and command to do anything including editing in camera.

At some point robots will be be better programed and be more adaptive to future camera design, replacing expensive humans, but that's another subject.

Backgrounds, enhancements, AI generated replacements, and fantasy will be things that will be automatic and bring great joy to our next generation, their pets and family robots.

Communicating with an AI camera will become annoying and will prompt privacy concerns, but with venue restrictions initiated by our politicians for things like news releases and sporting events, reprogramming the robot photographers of 2030 will be swift and painless...
Someday there will be no more photographers... Any... (show quote)

Time will tell, won't it.

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