What is happening to photography?
Nov 14, 2023 12:49:50 #
epd1947 wrote:
Exactly how does this rise to the level of “truly frightening?” What negative impact does such imaging have on either you personally or anyone else’s preference for more traditional image capture?
It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Simply another tool to create images.
A NEW tool, so everyone is wowed and amazed.
It'll wain.
Nov 14, 2023 13:00:23 #
Longshadow wrote:
Is AI cheating?
Just another method of "art" creation.
Perception....
Oh, wait, must be an "actual real photograph" in its original form, no composites either.
No, it's not a photograph in the literal sense, it's an "image".
Are blond, black, brown, red, or in my case silver, hairs easier to split?
Just another method of "art" creation.
Perception....
Oh, wait, must be an "actual real photograph" in its original form, no composites either.
No, it's not a photograph in the literal sense, it's an "image".
Are blond, black, brown, red, or in my case silver, hairs easier to split?
An image totally created with AI is not a photograph in any sense.....
Nov 14, 2023 13:02:49 #
Longshadow wrote:
It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Simply another tool to create images.
A NEW tool, so everyone is wowed and amazed.
It'll wain.
It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Simply another tool to create images.
A NEW tool, so everyone is wowed and amazed.
It'll wain.
It does bother me. As long as it requires pressing a button, I’ll just avoid that button, otherwise I’ll use another software {‘gimp’ is straight-forward; being ‘open-source’, I could avoid getting a version of the software with has AI}. My goal has never been to “wow” folk {not even with flying vehicles}.
Nov 14, 2023 13:03:27 #
srt101fan wrote:
An image totally created with AI is not a photograph in any sense.....
Literally true, isn't it.
Maybe we should ditch the word photograph and start using the word image.
That would also cover photographs ran through the food processor mode in editors.
Nov 14, 2023 13:06:32 #
Longshadow wrote:
Literally true, isn't it.
Maybe we should ditch the word photograph and start using the word image.
That would also cover photographs ran through the food processor mode in editors.
Maybe we should ditch the word photograph and start using the word image.
That would also cover photographs ran through the food processor mode in editors.
I will still produce “photographs”, never with flying vehicles.
Nov 14, 2023 13:07:03 #
I think some folk said the same thing about movie making when Star Wars came out....in 1977. I think most normal people will separate AI from the real thing and the hobby will survive. My concern is not for the hobby aspects.
I am concerned about various AI renditions of child porn (which is happening). In addition, voice images are being duplicated with AI, etc. The Wall Street Journal had an article recently on the percentage of kids who are approached by ....bad guys...via Instagram and other sites. It was a large number...something like 75%. AI will feed that crowd as as well. I also think there was a similar article where a school had a rash of AI porn images of some of the kids in the school being circulated. That is a huge problem. Imagine an nude, albeit AI generated picture of your 14 year old daughter being circulated. People need to go to jail on that kind of stuff..but it is happening.
So, knowing the capabilities of AI, would I now post photos of my grand children anywhere on-line? Nope. Not any more. AI is going to be a challenge for sure. I wish I were confident, but given the fact that more people get their news from FaceBook or twitter than (somewhat) standard news services and looking/ reading at things critically and skeptically, AI could well be a problem. Add to that the issues mentioned about kids and it is a volatile mix.
Personally, think AI is kinda fun when used in a controlled manner. I had a mundane pic of a grandchild walking on a dirt path, so I added a tiger to the photo. Its goofy looking, but fun. I am hoping to make some super hero videos of the child doing various feats.
I am concerned about various AI renditions of child porn (which is happening). In addition, voice images are being duplicated with AI, etc. The Wall Street Journal had an article recently on the percentage of kids who are approached by ....bad guys...via Instagram and other sites. It was a large number...something like 75%. AI will feed that crowd as as well. I also think there was a similar article where a school had a rash of AI porn images of some of the kids in the school being circulated. That is a huge problem. Imagine an nude, albeit AI generated picture of your 14 year old daughter being circulated. People need to go to jail on that kind of stuff..but it is happening.
So, knowing the capabilities of AI, would I now post photos of my grand children anywhere on-line? Nope. Not any more. AI is going to be a challenge for sure. I wish I were confident, but given the fact that more people get their news from FaceBook or twitter than (somewhat) standard news services and looking/ reading at things critically and skeptically, AI could well be a problem. Add to that the issues mentioned about kids and it is a volatile mix.
Personally, think AI is kinda fun when used in a controlled manner. I had a mundane pic of a grandchild walking on a dirt path, so I added a tiger to the photo. Its goofy looking, but fun. I am hoping to make some super hero videos of the child doing various feats.
Nov 14, 2023 13:10:02 #
rehess wrote:
I will still produce “photographs”, never with flying vehicles.
Ahhh, a realist.
Nov 14, 2023 13:10:18 #
Longshadow wrote:
It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Simply another tool to create images.
A NEW tool, so everyone is wowed and amazed.
It'll wain.
It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Simply another tool to create images.
A NEW tool, so everyone is wowed and amazed.
It'll wain.
You better be more respectful of AI. Be careful, they might resent being called "simply another tool".....
https://www.safe.ai/statement-on-ai-risk#open-letter
Nov 14, 2023 13:18:48 #
srt101fan wrote:
You better be more respectful of AI. Be careful, they might resent being called "simply another tool".....
https://www.safe.ai/statement-on-ai-risk#open-letter
https://www.safe.ai/statement-on-ai-risk#open-letter
When it asks to be called HAL or VIKI, I'll worry.
Yup, what will transpire will be interesting,
very interesting.
Nov 14, 2023 13:29:28 #
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Nov 14, 2023 13:35:26 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
You're the only one cheating yourself out of success in photography.
I've had success without AI, and will continue to do so.
Nov 14, 2023 13:37:37 #
Delderby wrote:
I've had success without AI, and will continue to do so.
I see you don't need the new gee-whiz-bang thing either.
Nov 14, 2023 13:45:33 #
I'm bored by AI. This old bird prefers PI (Personal Intelligence) in dealing with his photos.
Nov 14, 2023 13:52:57 #
revhen wrote:
I'm bored by AI. This old bird prefers PI (Personal Intelligence) in dealing with his photos.
People do get bored so easily.
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