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Nov 10, 2023 16:30:34   #
dmeyer Loc: Marion, NC
 
Once in a couple hundred shutter clicks, a couple of frames will be blown out white and then the next shot will be 'hung up', at which point I can turn the camera off and back on and resume shooting as usual. It isn't fatal, just annoying. None the less, thinking it may be the shutter hanging up, I sent it off to a repair company to have a look. Just like with a vehicle, it doesn't do anything wrong when it gets to the doctor. But the company asked a curious (to me) question--what lens does it do this with? As I look back, I think it has always been with the same one...the 24-85mm. And, it only happens when using OVF, not in Live View.

Has anyone else experienced this occurrence? Was it ever determined whether it was the camera or the lens? And what would be the indicators that the fault lies with one or the other? (This does not appear to be the warranty issue where there is shading over a portion of the image.)

Not about to ditch the camera (my well loved D750), but I might ditch the lens if it is the culprit. Any way to test it out, short of standing around clicking the shutter a few hundred times waiting for it to happen again?

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Nov 10, 2023 16:40:45   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
dmeyer wrote:
Once in a couple hundred shutter clicks, a couple of frames will be blown out white and then the next shot will be 'hung up', at which point I can turn the camera off and back on and resume shooting as usual. It isn't fatal, just annoying. None the less, thinking it may be the shutter hanging up, I sent it off to a repair company to have a look. Just like with a vehicle, it doesn't do anything wrong when it gets to the doctor. But the company asked a curious (to me) question--what lens does it do this with? As I look back, I think it has always been with the same one...the 24-85mm. And, it only happens when using OVF, not in Live View.

Has anyone else experienced this occurrence? Was it ever determined whether it was the camera or the lens? And what would be the indicators that the fault lies with one or the other? (This does not appear to be the warranty issue where there is shading over a portion of the image.)

Not about to ditch the camera (my well loved D750), but I might ditch the lens if it is the culprit. Any way to test it out, short of standing around clicking the shutter a few hundred times waiting for it to happen again?
Once in a couple hundred shutter clicks, a couple ... (show quote)


See if the aperture lever on the lens freely moves and closes the aperture down. One possibility is gummed up lubricant on the iris blades causing everything to stick in the open position. I have had this happen to a couple of older lenses by other manufacturers. If that's what's happening, a clean and lube of the lens should fix the problem.

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Nov 10, 2023 17:02:26   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Have you tried cleaning the contacts on the lens body? There's lots of YouTube videos that address the safe way to clean these.

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Nov 10, 2023 17:46:57   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The issue is likely the contacts and / or the lens, not the camera. If it happens with just one lens, you'd likely get the same issue at the 'doctor', the problem can't be recreated...

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Nov 10, 2023 18:20:32   #
User ID
 
larryepage wrote:
See if the aperture lever on the lens freely moves and closes the aperture down. One possibility is gummed up lubricant on the iris blades causing everything to stick in the open position. I have had this happen to a couple of older lenses by other manufacturers. If that's what's happening, a clean and lube of the lens should fix the problem.

Barking up the correct tree.

In LV most SLRs bypass the auto iris.

Hawgsters always blather about cleaning the contacts but those are self cleaning. Typical UHH. Nexxt bad idea nentioned may well be "full reset", another bozo fave.

The lens needs a CLA. You wont necessarily see any oil on the blades.

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Nov 10, 2023 18:34:17   #
druthven
 
larryepage wrote:
See if the aperture lever on the lens freely moves and closes the aperture down. One possibility is gummed up lubricant on the iris blades causing everything to stick in the open position. I have had this happen to a couple of older lenses by other manufacturers. If that's what's happening, a clean and lube of the lens should fix the problem.


This is a distinct possibility especially if the lens has been over heated such as being left in a hot car. The lubricant runs and gets on the blades and when it cools causes them to stick.

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Nov 10, 2023 18:36:22   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
User ID wrote:
Barking up the correct tree.

In LV most SLRs bypass the auto iris.

Hawgsters always blather about cleaning the contacts but those are self cleaning. Typical UHH. Nexxt bad idea nentioned may well be "full reset", another bozo fave.

The lens needs a CLA. You wont necessarily see any oil on the blades.


I think you have a typo. Claddagh Ring Adjustment would be CRA. But that's ok and we get it, nobody is perfect.

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Nov 10, 2023 19:35:48   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
dmeyer wrote:
Once in a couple hundred shutter clicks, a couple of frames will be blown out white and then the next shot will be 'hung up', at which point I can turn the camera off and back on and resume shooting as usual. It isn't fatal, just annoying. None the less, thinking it may be the shutter hanging up, I sent it off to a repair company to have a look. Just like with a vehicle, it doesn't do anything wrong when it gets to the doctor. But the company asked a curious (to me) question--what lens does it do this with? As I look back, I think it has always been with the same one...the 24-85mm. And, it only happens when using OVF, not in Live View.

Has anyone else experienced this occurrence? Was it ever determined whether it was the camera or the lens? And what would be the indicators that the fault lies with one or the other? (This does not appear to be the warranty issue where there is shading over a portion of the image.)

Not about to ditch the camera (my well loved D750), but I might ditch the lens if it is the culprit. Any way to test it out, short of standing around clicking the shutter a few hundred times waiting for it to happen again?
Once in a couple hundred shutter clicks, a couple ... (show quote)


So far this has not happened to me.
Hanging up seems like a mirror and shutter co-ordination issue. When the blown out white does the shutter sound delayed?
This doesn't sound like a lens problem as the total wash out even at full open aperture is less likely than a delayed shutter.
But the randomness again doesn't sound like a lens problem but a mirror and or shutter problem.

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Nov 10, 2023 19:44:58   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
fantom wrote:
I think you have a typo. Claddagh Ring Adjustment would be CRA. But that's ok and we get it, nobody is perfect.


I assume that is an attempt at a joke. If not, it's "Clean, Lube and Adjust".

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Nov 10, 2023 20:37:29   #
BebuLamar
 
User ID wrote:
Barking up the correct tree.

In LV most SLRs bypass the auto iris.

Hawgsters always blather about cleaning the contacts but those are self cleaning. Typical UHH. Nexxt bad idea nentioned may well be "full reset", another bozo fave.

The lens needs a CLA. You wont necessarily see any oil on the blades.


Yeah the diaphragm perhaps slow so it still works but sticks some of the time. By the way this is a full mechanical problem and not and electronic one so the contacts have nothing to do with this. (of course unless the OP has E type lens).

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Nov 10, 2023 22:48:23   #
User ID
 
fantom wrote:
I think you have a typo. Claddagh Ring Adjustment would be CRA. But that's ok and we get it, nobody is perfect.

Well, *almost* nobody .....

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Nov 10, 2023 23:34:18   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
dmeyer wrote:
Once in a couple hundred shutter clicks, a couple of frames will be blown out white and then the next shot will be 'hung up', at which point I can turn the camera off and back on and resume shooting as usual. It isn't fatal, just annoying. None the less, thinking it may be the shutter hanging up, I sent it off to a repair company to have a look. Just like with a vehicle, it doesn't do anything wrong when it gets to the doctor. But the company asked a curious (to me) question--what lens does it do this with? As I look back, I think it has always been with the same one...the 24-85mm. And, it only happens when using OVF, not in Live View.

Has anyone else experienced this occurrence? Was it ever determined whether it was the camera or the lens? And what would be the indicators that the fault lies with one or the other? (This does not appear to be the warranty issue where there is shading over a portion of the image.)

Not about to ditch the camera (my well loved D750), but I might ditch the lens if it is the culprit. Any way to test it out, short of standing around clicking the shutter a few hundred times waiting for it to happen again?
Once in a couple hundred shutter clicks, a couple ... (show quote)

Answer to the Title question: No.

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Nov 11, 2023 09:21:55   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
dmeyer wrote:
Once in a couple hundred shutter clicks, a couple of frames will be blown out white and then the next shot will be 'hung up', at which point I can turn the camera off and back on and resume shooting as usual. It isn't fatal, just annoying. None the less, thinking it may be the shutter hanging up, I sent it off to a repair company to have a look. Just like with a vehicle, it doesn't do anything wrong when it gets to the doctor. But the company asked a curious (to me) question--what lens does it do this with? As I look back, I think it has always been with the same one...the 24-85mm. And, it only happens when using OVF, not in Live View.

Has anyone else experienced this occurrence? Was it ever determined whether it was the camera or the lens? And what would be the indicators that the fault lies with one or the other? (This does not appear to be the warranty issue where there is shading over a portion of the image.)

Not about to ditch the camera (my well loved D750), but I might ditch the lens if it is the culprit. Any way to test it out, short of standing around clicking the shutter a few hundred times waiting for it to happen again?
Once in a couple hundred shutter clicks, a couple ... (show quote)


Your quote "hung up". Exactly what does that mean. Camera would not take an image? Shutter stopped working? Camera froze up? Mirror froze? What?

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Nov 11, 2023 10:39:07   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
User ID wrote:
Barking up the correct tree.

In LV most SLRs bypass the auto iris.

Hawgsters always blather about cleaning the contacts but those are self cleaning. Typical UHH. Nexxt bad idea nentioned may well be "full reset", another bozo fave.

The lens needs a CLA. You wont necessarily see any oil on the blades.

“Self cleaning contacts?” What does this even mean and how does it work? I have nine Nikon lenses. None of them have self cleaning contacts. I can’t even picture this. Mine get dirty. Camera contacts too. I clean them about once a year.

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Nov 11, 2023 11:06:35   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
CamB wrote:
“Self cleaning contacts?” What does this even mean and how does it work? I have nine Nikon lenses. None of them have self cleaning contacts. I can’t even picture this. Mine get dirty. Camera contacts too. I clean them about once a year.



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