SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

You asked for content in response to your screed. I tried to give you enough information so you would understand. I guess that was asking too much.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

The headline in u-tube is to attract viewers. Advertising. Punc.

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gwilliams6

These top reviewers that also have youtube channels are professional photographers with real credentials. It is just silly to ignore them all who agree this A9III global shutter camera is revolutionary.

That would be the same like you saying that mirrorless cameras are phony cameras and not revolutionary.

This is NOT about what gear you personally prefer to use. This thread is about this historic moment in the history of photography. It is NOT about you.

Cheers and best to you.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

I would save my cheering until we see what Sony processing is doing and whether this makes any difference in the photos we actually receive.

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gwilliams6

rehess ,it isn't about any cheering, it is about recognizing a real historic advance in photography. Everyone but you seems to get that.

Open your mind and watch these to understand how this makes a real difference.

B&H Photo/Video:
LIVE: Sony a9 III Discussion with Jean Fruth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz0rw4YNiLM

B&H Photo:
What is Global Shutter? (And How Does It Work?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z-Z4up3NYk

Cheers and best to you.

gwilliams6

Folks, this is a first.

This global shutter camera wont be for everyone's need, and it wont be perfect, no camera from ANY maker is perfect, and perfect for everyone.

I am sure when all independent testers are finished with their in-depth tests, these early Beta-versions of the A9III will have some things that can be improved on. Then Sony has until the actual A9III release at end of February to tweak the final firmware, and any other things that should be addressed before final production models actually go on sale to the public. (B&H says first USA shipping date for the A9III is Feb 23, 2024)

Later global shutter cameras will take their foundation from this camera and improve upon it. I am sure the Canon R1 (if a global shutter camera) and the Sony A1, generation 2 (if a global shutter camera) will be designed to be even better than this A9III in some ways. And IMHO, Nikon and Panasonic wont be left out of this fullframe global shutter market either.

The bottom line is that photography has been truly advanced . Not all subsequent cameras from all makers will have global shutters, that is a given. There are superb mirrorless cameras with stacked sensors and BSI sensors. And still very good DSLRs that still serve many photographers' needs.

This isn't an all global shutter or nothing situation, there is room for all these cameras. But the playing field has changed forever, and that is not a bad thing going forward.

All photographers and photography ultimately benefits.

Cheers and best to you all..

Grahame Loc: Fiji

What "difference" are you going to be looking for to physically "see" in those photos that is going to make you cheer or not?

How are you going to be able to recognize, without technical exif available, what you are visually looking for?

gwilliams6

Jared Polin:
SONY’s MIND-BLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT!!! (WATCH OUT Canon & Nikon?!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CJ-mTjGQ1Q

Cheers

MDI Mainer

And the headline in a paper (at least for stories that appear above the fold) is not to sell copies????? It's also a bit puerile to consistently misspell YouTube.

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

From the review at DP Review:

"Sony's own F46RM and F60RM2 flashes can sync up to the maximum shutter speed..."

That plus focus bracketing and extremely high shutter speeds?

pgs

24mp Sony A9iii with $6k price tag is a useless camera for most users. It maybe a great camera for sports shooters. Otherwise ISO starting at 250 with reduced dynamic range and low resolution of 24mp are not that attractive for other kinds of photography such as landscape and wildlife (for instance for bird photography, cropping is almost inevitable, for which 24mp is not that great). As for flash photography at shutter speed 1/80000 or at high speed maybe a gimmick in my opinion as then one would need an extremely powerful flash emitting narrow light pulse to illuminate the subject to capture a well exposed shot for that short duration of exposer. I think this camera will not sell in huge numbers at that insane price as it caters to only a limited types of photography. It probably is targeted for sports photography for upcoming 2024 summer olympics. This in fact is a message that a new kind of technology is emerging and that will impede sell of cameras of other brands such as new Nikon Z8 etc. The weakest point of A9iii is its low resolution 24mp. However, global shutter electronics complemented with the possibility of high resolution over 45mp, wide dynamic range, image stabilization and advanced AI technology for subject detection and autofocusing will make a big impact to photography world in coming years!

Canisdirus

Making things up now...go away.

gwilliams6

FYI, it is already a huge pre-ordered camera now at B&H photo. And reports from around the world say more than just pro sports shooters are pre-ordering it, sorry to burst your prediction on that one.

No one said you had to shoot flash at 1/80,000 second, LOL The A9III shoots flash at ANY speed, up to 1/80,000 sec. You need to do better research.

The 24.6 mp of the A9III is NOT low resolution with good resolving lenses and was the pro standard resolution in the top Canon and Nikon sports DSLRs and the present (non global shutter) flagship Canon R3 (24.1 mp, $5000 USD price). Please be accurate here.

PetaPixel did not find reduced dynamic range. Please link any tests you have that support your assertion it has reduced dynamic range. PetaPixel found its high ISO shots looked as good as the Sony A7RV.

It is not surprising that folks want to knock what is new if it doesn't seem to suit their needs or price range, or isn't from their favorite brand. . But experts from around the world will do more in-depth testing on this current Beta-model and answer questions with real data, not just conjecture.

Sony wants this, as it will give them time to finalize the A9III firmware and make any changes or fixes before the scheduled Feb 23, 2024 USA shipping date (B&H, source).

So far the top respected testers and even top Canon and Nikon users in the USA, Canada, and around the world are acknowledging that this is a game-changing camera and wanting their favorite brand to respond.

No new camera is perfect, none, from any maker. And no camera is perfect for everyone. But what is certain is that this A9III with its new technology has changed the landscape of photography forever. It is ludicrous for you to call this camera "useless", LOL, LOL

You can choose to acknowledge and celebrate this historic release, even if it isn't right for your needs or budget; or you can be like too many UHHers, looking to find any reason for a knee-jerk reaction to knock it down without any facts or any hands-on experience to support their arguments.

Cheers and best to you.

pgs

Well, you LOL, but what I meant is that if one shoots at 1/80000 shutter speed, then correspondingly the flash light intensity for that short duration has to be strong enough so that it produces a well exposed image - not sure if there is more to it - perhaps you can share your thoughts on that.

This forum is to discuss different opinions and thoughts, and a prior extensive research is not required for presenting ones ideas and thoughts. This forum is also to learn from others. If you know something you are most welcome to share that with others so others are benefited.

Also, can you please share your reference for your claim "it is already a huge pre-ordered camera now at B&H photo. And reports from around the world say more than just pro sports shooters are pre-ordering it, sorry to burst your prediction on that one"

Thanks

pgs

Well, you may LOL, but what I meant is that if one shoots at 1/80000 shutter speed, then correspondingly the flash light intensity for that short duration has to be strong enough so that it produces a well exposed image - not sure if there is more to it - perhaps you can share your thoughts on that.

This forum is to discuss different opinions and thoughts, and a prior extensive research is not required for presenting ones ideas and thoughts. This forum is also to learn from others. If you know something you are most welcome to share that with others so others are benefited.

Thanks