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Nov 5, 2023 09:40:09 #
Bridges wrote:
Not everything is easier -- building with the standard 16" on center equals 40.64 centimeters -- try finding .64 centimeters on a ruler!
Yeah I know the reason why the US can't switch to metric. You have to change the size of your everyday items. Some have changed but many as you said still stays the same. It's definitely silly to make 473.18 ml pop bottle the same as 40.64 cm center. Now most pop bottles are 500 ml and you would see that it's silly to have the 16.9 oz bottle. You would have to change to 40cm center and it would be very silly to have 15 3/4" center.
Nov 5, 2023 09:49:23 #
alexol wrote:
This is part of the problem of converting people - everyone assumes that what they done all their lives is the best, only way to do things. There's certainly nothing magical about 16' centers.
Having used both Imperial and metric all my file, the metric system is FAR and away easier mor logical to use, since everything relates.
A liter, 1000ccs, of water weighs 1 kilogram.
A cubic ft of water, 1728 cubic inches or 537 fluid ounces, weighs around 6.34 pounds or 101 ounces.
Having used both Imperial and metric all my file, the metric system is FAR and away easier mor logical to use, since everything relates.
A liter, 1000ccs, of water weighs 1 kilogram.
A cubic ft of water, 1728 cubic inches or 537 fluid ounces, weighs around 6.34 pounds or 101 ounces.
What you say is true, but I was thinking of the millions of buildings and homes that are already in place. Yes, starting from scratch it would be easier to use metric but retrofitting things to older standards would be a nightmare!
Nov 5, 2023 09:53:13 #
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Nov 5, 2023 09:53:21 #
alexol wrote:
This is part of the problem of converting people - everyone assumes that what they done all their lives is the best, only way to do things. There's certainly nothing magical about 16' centers.
16 on center or 16 oc simply means you place the center of the stud every 16 inches.
16-inch stud spacing is the industry standard for residential wall framing. The reason for this is structural but also because materials are made in 8ft and 16ft lengths.
For example, drywall is attached directly to the studs and comes in 8-foot lengths. When you place your studs 16 inches on center the ends of the drywall butt up against each other over the stud, giving you a convenient place to screw the drywall into place.
I think the statement above is worded poorly. It's not the length (height) of the drywall that matters; it's the width. 3 X 16" = 48"
Nov 5, 2023 10:08:22 #
Again, nothing magical about the existing sizes used for drywall, all rather arbitrary.
As a previous poster noted, the issue is retro fitting, but at some point, hopefully we'll drag ourselves away into the 21st century.
If we are too lazy to do that, at least simply by using feet and decimal feet.
Elimination of fractions would be a useful, and attainable, goal.
As a previous poster noted, the issue is retro fitting, but at some point, hopefully we'll drag ourselves away into the 21st century.
If we are too lazy to do that, at least simply by using feet and decimal feet.
Elimination of fractions would be a useful, and attainable, goal.
Nov 5, 2023 11:11:51 #
We're a hybrid nation in the USA. We use both sae and metric.
Our camera lenses we measure in metric. Our copy paper is usually measured in inches.
Our camera lenses we measure in metric. Our copy paper is usually measured in inches.
Nov 5, 2023 11:22:27 #
Paper is a perfect example of the ridiculousnous of the SAE system compared to the European system, which is just SO simple.
A4 paper is very similar to US Letter size. A3 is exactly double A4, and A5 is exactly half; the system extends from there, A2, A6 etc. Envelopes work similarly.
Unnecessary complication and information overload are banes of modern life. I understand MS Word allows you to paginate document in more than 200 ways - how utterly pointless. Likewise the construction company's pickup truck, going the same speed a traffic, with it's yellow flashing lights. What purpose does that serve??
A4 paper is very similar to US Letter size. A3 is exactly double A4, and A5 is exactly half; the system extends from there, A2, A6 etc. Envelopes work similarly.
Unnecessary complication and information overload are banes of modern life. I understand MS Word allows you to paginate document in more than 200 ways - how utterly pointless. Likewise the construction company's pickup truck, going the same speed a traffic, with it's yellow flashing lights. What purpose does that serve??
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Nov 5, 2023 12:11:27 #
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Nov 5, 2023 12:14:33 #
BebuLamar wrote:
And you don't know? Probably that's why you don't like metric.
Let me ask you what is 0.359375 in lowest terms?
Let me ask you what is 0.359375 in lowest terms?
I keep this credit card-size conversion table in my tool box. Easy as pi to convert measurements. BTW, didn't you learn about Significant Figures in school? Four figures are sufficient for everyday use, and the fourth figure is probably pushing it.
Nov 5, 2023 12:23:03 #
jerryc41 wrote:
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Here in Uruguay, wey are metric, period. No fractions, no need to.
But because we buy many things from the USA we are contaminated with some SAE dimensions... I like the french: if you dare to pronounce the word inch, you are executed on the guillotine the very same day.
Nov 5, 2023 12:41:42 #
carlberg wrote:
I keep this credit card-size conversion table in my tool box. Easy as pi to convert measurements. BTW, didn't you learn about Significant Figures in school? Four figures are sufficient for everyday use, and the fourth figure is probably pushing it.
I never use table. Does it have 0.359 inch?
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Nov 5, 2023 13:48:10 #
Anyone knows that our imperial system is much easier to use:
1 foot = 12 inches
1 yard = 3 feet
1 mile = 1760 yards = 5280 feet
1 gallon = 128 liquid ounces
1 quart = 32 liquid ounces
1 pound = 16 ounces avoirdupois
212º F = water boiling & 32º F = water freezing
Why would you want another system? How could you want more clarity?
Besides, we ARE the U.S.A. Why should we change?
1 foot = 12 inches
1 yard = 3 feet
1 mile = 1760 yards = 5280 feet
1 gallon = 128 liquid ounces
1 quart = 32 liquid ounces
1 pound = 16 ounces avoirdupois
212º F = water boiling & 32º F = water freezing
Why would you want another system? How could you want more clarity?
Besides, we ARE the U.S.A. Why should we change?
Nov 5, 2023 13:57:10 #
Bridges wrote:
Not everything is easier -- building with the standard 16" on center equals 40.64 centimeters -- try finding .64 centimeters on a ruler!
Bingo.
Nov 5, 2023 13:58:47 #
PhotoMono123 wrote:
Anyone knows that our imperial system is much easier to use:
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Besides, we ARE the U.S.A. Why should we change?
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Besides, we ARE the U.S.A. Why should we change?
To me the most entertaining part is that everyone in the US - even those vehemently against a metric system - uses a decimal system every single day of the year, and doesn't even think about it.
The US dollar, made up of 100 cents.
And of course, those who drive will easily recognise the readings on their odometer, with 176 yards or 528 ft being recorded as 0.1 miles.
Nov 5, 2023 14:05:29 #
PhotoMono123 wrote:
Anyone knows that our imperial system is much easier to use:
1 foot = 12 inches
1 yard = 3 feet
1 mile = 1760 yards = 5280 feet
1 gallon = 128 liquid ounces
1 quart = 32 liquid ounces
1 pound = 16 ounces avoirdupois
212º F = water boiling & 32º F = water freezing
Why would you want another system? How could you want more clarity?
Besides, we ARE the U.S.A. Why should we change?
1 foot = 12 inches
1 yard = 3 feet
1 mile = 1760 yards = 5280 feet
1 gallon = 128 liquid ounces
1 quart = 32 liquid ounces
1 pound = 16 ounces avoirdupois
212º F = water boiling & 32º F = water freezing
Why would you want another system? How could you want more clarity?
Besides, we ARE the U.S.A. Why should we change?
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