My Water Tank
Nov 1, 2023 22:26:32 #
Jerry
Use the jack from your car to lift the top end.
Use the jack from your car to lift the top end.
Nov 2, 2023 06:30:45 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I mentioned last month that I had to replace the p... (show quote)
Take the tee off the pipe on the end, install a hose bib, close the valve rotate the pipe one way or the other a 1/4 turn , connect a hose. the start jacking the other end of the tank open valve start draining tank!!! you may have to open the tank on the other end. for a vent or drill a hole!!
I have a 40 gal water heater in a closet that's full of water and the drain valve will not turn once it is empty its still too big to fit through the closet door, maybe if I can remove the jacket it will fit, right now it just sits there a smirks at me when I open the door.
If I get energetic I will work on it or maybe I'll just let it sit .
Nov 2, 2023 08:36:03 #
Find a small pump that handle water , like a bird bath one , drill a hole at tank above the water line , stick a hose in there , and drain water in 5 gallons buckets . Home depot or on line .
Nov 2, 2023 10:04:11 #
Floyd wrote:
Jerry
Use the jack from your car to lift the top end.
Use the jack from your car to lift the top end.
I thought of that, but a metal jack on a round, metal tank - just asking for trouble.
Nov 2, 2023 10:10:57 #
Progress.
As I said above, all those pipes were removed just after I took the picture. Yesterday, I released all the air - lots of air! Then I pulled out the Shrader valve thingy, enlarged the hole, and inserted one end of a syphon hose. Squeezing the bulb a few times got the water flowing, but only when I squeezed the bulb. I let it sit, and the level rose very slowly over a few hours. Then it stopped. Using my endoscope, I could see that the water level was about at the halfway point in the tank.
My next step will be to cut a larger hole in the tank and then and insert an old pump from a fountain. That has to be submerged to work. It runs on 110v, so it will be easy to power.
This was a surprise. When I released the air pressure, water began flowing out of the bottom of the tank. I'm guessing the release of pressure caused the bladder to move away from the opening.
Before I start on this again, I'm going to order parts for my woodstove and work on that. It's great having so many projects to work on! Not!
As I said above, all those pipes were removed just after I took the picture. Yesterday, I released all the air - lots of air! Then I pulled out the Shrader valve thingy, enlarged the hole, and inserted one end of a syphon hose. Squeezing the bulb a few times got the water flowing, but only when I squeezed the bulb. I let it sit, and the level rose very slowly over a few hours. Then it stopped. Using my endoscope, I could see that the water level was about at the halfway point in the tank.
My next step will be to cut a larger hole in the tank and then and insert an old pump from a fountain. That has to be submerged to work. It runs on 110v, so it will be easy to power.
This was a surprise. When I released the air pressure, water began flowing out of the bottom of the tank. I'm guessing the release of pressure caused the bladder to move away from the opening.
Before I start on this again, I'm going to order parts for my woodstove and work on that. It's great having so many projects to work on! Not!
Nov 2, 2023 10:29:54 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I mentioned last month that I had to replace the p... (show quote)
The trials of rural living. Professional Plumber?
Nov 2, 2023 10:36:10 #
lamiaceae wrote:
The trials of rural living. Professional Plumber?
Professional Plumber? 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, I could pay a plumber, or I could buy a pair of Nikon Z8 cameras.
I replaced a roof, repaired my fridge, installed a new water tank, and inserted a chimney liner into an old chimney. I pay for parts, not for labor.
Nov 2, 2023 11:46:46 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Drilling would be tricky. If I drill too high, I get no water. If I drill too low, I get too much water. I'm going to try levering it up from the top to get the water flowing.
After I got the tank replaced, I went directly to working on the chimney liner, and now I am working on the woodstove. Obviously, the tank in the hall isn't a design feature, but I want to get the woodstove working.
After I got the tank replaced, I went directly to working on the chimney liner, and now I am working on the woodstove. Obviously, the tank in the hall isn't a design feature, but I want to get the woodstove working.
Maybe try to roll it sideways so that the drain valve points down. May have to remove some of the copper piping first.
Nov 2, 2023 12:53:41 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Professional Plumber? 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, I could pay a plumber, or I could buy a pair of Nikon Z8 cameras.
I replaced a roof, repaired my fridge, installed a new water tank, and inserted a chimney liner into an old chimney. I pay for parts, not for labor.
Yes, I could pay a plumber, or I could buy a pair of Nikon Z8 cameras.
I replaced a roof, repaired my fridge, installed a new water tank, and inserted a chimney liner into an old chimney. I pay for parts, not for labor.
When I was young and able I would do a good amount of home repairs, with the wife's help, but no longer. There is a cost or price to home ownership. I could sell my home (worth ~$800,000) and buy a truck load of Digital 50 or 100 MP Medium Format Hasselblads, Fujifilms, Pentaxs, and live in my car. Wow, that would only be about 16 such cameras minus any lenses. Now that we are retired we can afford to hire pros to work for us.
Nov 3, 2023 00:33:10 #
One of these and a hole saw big enough to accommodate free movement of your hose without kinking:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hopkins-Siphon-Pump/1000731538
(... and a five gallon bucket)
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hopkins-Siphon-Pump/1000731538
(... and a five gallon bucket)
Nov 3, 2023 07:12:20 #
Nov 3, 2023 07:38:27 #
niteman3d wrote:
One of these and a hole saw big enough to accommodate free movement of your hose without kinking:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hopkins-Siphon-Pump/1000731538
(... and a five gallon bucket)
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hopkins-Siphon-Pump/1000731538
(... and a five gallon bucket)
I cut a hole in the tank, but the syphon thing I have requires constant squeezing of the bulb, similar to that pump you suggested. I'm going to buy a 12v pump and connect it to a 12v power supply and pump the water out through a garden hose. With the water level at the halfway point, there are a lot of gallons in there.
I broke three jig saw blades cutting the hole because the metal vibrated so much. The first cut was easy, but when the metal had less support, it shook back and forth.
Nov 3, 2023 14:02:52 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I cut a hole in the tank, but the syphon thing I have requires constant squeezing of the bulb, similar to that pump you suggested. I'm going to buy a 12v pump and connect it to a 12v power supply and pump the water out through a garden hose. With the water level at the halfway point, there are a lot of gallons in there.
I broke three jig saw blades cutting the hole because the metal vibrated so much. The first cut was easy, but when the metal had less support, it shook back and forth.
I broke three jig saw blades cutting the hole because the metal vibrated so much. The first cut was easy, but when the metal had less support, it shook back and forth.
Whatever works. I saw several electric pumps when looking at Lowes and you should be able to find one to do the job for not a lot of money. If you have the space you could give the new pump a home as a bubbler or return line for a water fall you could create if you could find somebody to lop the tank in half to use as a small pond. I'm pretty generous with your energy, huh? 😉 Good luck!
Nov 3, 2023 16:42:45 #
niteman3d wrote:
Whatever works. I saw several electric pumps when looking at Lowes and you should be able to find one to do the job for not a lot of money. If you have the space you could give the new pump a home as a bubbler or return line for a water fall you could create if you could find somebody to lop the tank in half to use as a small pond. I'm pretty generous with your energy, huh? 😉 Good luck!
I got one for $25 that's powered by an electric drill. It worked great. The tank is out of the house and ready for a recycling trip tomorrow.
The pumps they had were heavy duty for pumping out houses, etc. This was the only small one, but it was perfect. One thing about pumps like this: the hoses come rolled up, and they stay rolled up when you try to use them. I taped a piece of wood to the inlet hose, and that kept it straight. I'm going to store it like that - straight.
Nov 3, 2023 18:07:29 #
If you have a sump, use it.
If you don't have a sump, install one.
A friend had a flood when a fringe drain plugged up. The insurance adjuster went looking for a sump and found one under a built-in cabinet. He said that if there were no sump, the insurance wouldn't cover for flooding.
I don't know if that's common to all home insurance but you might want to check into it. Or make sure you have a sump.
If you don't have a sump, install one.
A friend had a flood when a fringe drain plugged up. The insurance adjuster went looking for a sump and found one under a built-in cabinet. He said that if there were no sump, the insurance wouldn't cover for flooding.
I don't know if that's common to all home insurance but you might want to check into it. Or make sure you have a sump.
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