iOS versus Android smartphones (Page 2): I have to disagree somewhat with your last paragraph - should perhaps have read "it can concentrate on revenue generation and profitability". I...

alexol

burkphoto wrote:

Just because someone has done it, does not mean that it is a commercially viable thing. If it were, Apple's lawyers would swarm all over it and shut it down.

Partnerships with camera companies are sometimes about the technology, but most often, they are about the brand image.

Apple has good reason to limit its product range — it can concentrate on quality and suitability for purpose, for the broadest range of users.

I have to disagree somewhat with your last paragraph - should perhaps have read "it can concentrate on revenue generation and profitability".

I own Apple stock, but Android phones and Windows-based PCs as I'm not a fan of the walled garden approach from a technical perspective, but we're a mixed household with examples of each.

Usually, such cross-over arrangements - running IOS on PCs or Windows on Macs etc - is done for specific reasons and frequently results in some (or much) loss of native capability.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

alexol wrote:

I have to disagree somewhat with your last paragra... (show quote)

Revenue and profitability are the result of people wanting what Apple sells. They make a limited selection of products that satisfy the broadest range of needs.

Last night, they announced new iMacs and new MacBook Pros, all stuffed with M3 systems-on-chips. In doing so, they DROPPED a product, the 13" MacBook Pro with its unsupported TouchBar, that had been the laughingstock of their line-up for years. Instead, they sell a new, lower spec. variant of the 14" MacBook Pro.

Running Windows on my Mac was a perfect solution for me, for many years. Parallels Desktop has long been a viable way to run multiple operating systems simultaneously on a Mac. The 10% to 12% performance hit on Intel Macs (compared to a native PC running the same processor) was insignificant. It enabled me to travel with a MacBook Pro and run all my Mac and Windows software with one machine. Running Windows for Arm on an Apple Silicon Mac is not *completely* there, yet, but it does some things faster than a Microsoft Arm machine. So Microsoft officially supports it, now.

Sadly (for some), you can't really run Android apps on iOS. Thankfully, you can't really do the opposite, either.

alexol

It's that last paragraph again;)

It's a very convoluted solution in each case but you can run some Android apps (I've only tried a few just to see what happens) by running Samsung's DEX under Parallels on Mac.

I've seen a PC running IOS, which I understand is even more convoluted and even less efficient than vice versa.

Personally I buy computers and phones AFTER deciding what software I want to use.

PCs and Mac's are closer together than ever, but still have enough differences to warrant careful choice-making.

I wish GEM had been able to continue development on its own path as back in its day it delivered a user experience superior to either Mac and PC, IMO.

lreisner Loc: Union,NJ

NMGal wrote:

Guys, please. Maybe my question is not clear. For example: if I was lusting for the Hasselblad camera on the One Plus phone, but wanting to stay with the iOS system, could I change the operating system to iOS on the android phone and still have the cameras work? Would the iOS camera software work with the Hasselblad cameras?

The short answer is no! You can not buy a an android phone and put an Apple Operating system on it. If you could you would more than likely be violating licensing agreements.

GLSmith Loc: Tampa, Fl

My I~Phone does a great job at making & receiving phone calls and adding appointments on to calendar or receiving texts from time to time...For pictures, I use my camera

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

Longshadow wrote:

I have a cell phone,
it works,
whatever OS is on it,
it meets my needs.

Ditto, even as it occasionally annoys me.

alexol

lreisner wrote:

The short answer is no! You can not buy a an android phone and put an Apple Operating system on it. If you could you would more than likely be violating licensing agreements.

And in any case, there's absolutely no point, as the hardware and software of each system as designed specifically to suit.

Just because a phone has a well-known lens affiliation, it definitely does not mean that it will take better photos than a different phone with its own camera system.

Short version, it is REALLY complicated stuff, far far more so than getting say an adapter to use a Nikon special purpose lens on a Fuji for example.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

burkphoto wrote:

Just because someone has done it, does not mean that it is a commercially viable thing. If it were, Apple's lawyers would swarm all over it and shut it down.

Partnerships with camera companies are sometimes about the technology, but most often, they are about the brand image.

Apple has good reason to limit its product range — it can concentrate on quality and suitability for purpose, for the broadest range of users.

That’s one problem with android. There are too many flavors to support too many devices which created inconsistencies in how it works. I’ve never been happy with an Android device.

ChrisKet Loc: Orange, CA

Longshadow wrote:

I know the feeling.......

I keep wondering if any of the developers use the apps they make.

I managed a Systems Support User help desk for many years, for scheduling and time recording; I always wondered the same thing - many times I asked! I was considered RUDE by the developers....

The best was when they made the developers go out to the airport and transfer luggage for our arriving guests using the system they developed to identify which luggage needed to go to which hotel...it only took a weekend for them to figure it out.

gouldopfl

No. The Android system is based ona custom version of Linux and it is baked into the kernel
You might find a theme that looks like IOS.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

alexol wrote:

And in any case, there's absolutely no point, as the hardware and software of each system as designed specifically to suit.

Just because a phone has a well-known lens affiliation, it definitely does not mean that it will take better photos than a different phone with its own camera system.

Short version, it is REALLY complicated stuff, far far more so than getting say an adapter to use a Nikon special purpose lens on a Fuji for example.

That's an understatement. Those tiny little cameras need a lot of help from image processors and software to make things look decent. The camera is only part of the equation.

Grey Ghost

I don’t think that you’re going nuts but I sense that you probably have to much time on your hands!!

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

SuperflyTNT wrote:

That’s one problem with android. There are too many flavors to support too many devices which created inconsistencies in how it works. I’ve never been happy with an Android device.

Apple has an advantage that they write for a limited collection of hardware.

NMGal Loc: NE NM

Grey Ghost wrote:

I don’t think that you’re going nuts but I sense that you probably have to much time on your hands!!

You guessed right!

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

NMGal wrote:

I am a Mac person for many years now. Love the iO... (show quote)

Why in the world would you want to covert an android phone to an iPhone? What makes them great is that they are NOT iPhones. My wife has an iPhone 14. I have a Samsung Galaxy s21 plus which is an older model than her iPhone. I have functionality on my phone that her iPhone, after all these years, still doesn't have, but should. I have noted more and more android like features are slowly being added to the iPhone, but they still have a ways to go.

The android platform has much more configurability than an iPhone. That becomes self evident when you see the very significantly greater number of setup menus and options on an android phone. Admittedly, the fewer configuration options on an iPhone makes it easier for many people to use, but I and many others like that greater configurability. For those who think iPhones are the best way to go, more power too them. If there were only one best smartphone for everyone there would not be any need for competition. But I would never, ever want my android phone to look or work like an iPhone.