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Oct 31, 2023 12:23:16   #
pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I don't smoke, what else is a pipe wrench used for?🥴


Got me going there for a moment. Thought it said “pipe wench”. And I can guess their use.

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Oct 31, 2023 12:32:36   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
Longshadow wrote:
Still in place. Supposedly the permit applies to the <commercial> shooting process, not what is done with the pictures afterwards.
Found on Quora: "A permit applies to an actual shoot and does not restrict the sale of pictures afterwards that were taken without need of a permit. Most scenic still pictures taken where visitors are free to go, do not require a permit." and "Generally, a permit is needed for a commercial shoot that involves actors and/or props, whether a movie or stills.".
Seems like "Joe Schmoe" can shoot all he wants and sell prints if he wishes to do so.
Still in place. Supposedly the permit applies to t... (show quote)


I'm glad to hear that, even though I was never really worried about it for myself

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Oct 31, 2023 12:44:41   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
terryMc wrote:
I'm glad to hear that, even though I was never really worried about it for myself


(I would have sold pics anyway.....They're my "souvenirs", and if someone wants a copy, I'd oblige them.)

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Oct 31, 2023 12:51:09   #
Dannj
 
We took a touristy trip this summer and I was one of very few people with a “real” camera and I used it a lot; and if it wasn’t in my hand it was in my backpack. There were several days it stayed in my backpack and I used my phone exclusively. I’m putting an album together that’ll include photos from both and I doubt anyone will notice a difference.

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Oct 31, 2023 12:58:46   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Dannj wrote:
We took a touristy trip this summer and I was one of very few people with a “real” camera and I used it a lot; and if it wasn’t in my hand it was in my backpack. There were several days it stayed in my backpack and I used my phone exclusively. I’m putting an album together that’ll include photos from both and I doubt anyone will notice a difference.

Most likely not in the slightest.

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Oct 31, 2023 13:01:16   #
FramerMCB Loc: Northern, ID (formerly Portland, OR area)
 
MrBob wrote:
Why feel amused... Those folks with the phones who have some photo experience could post their pics on this site and NEVER announce what device created them and I would wager 90% of folks here would not even question the source; there is a lot of compression on internet photos. Most would even admit that even " right now " the quality is good enough ! At the very least, a phone cam should be in the kit and USED for more than phone calls.... Start getting used to it... IT'S coming.


I often use my Samsung S21+ as my back-up/wide-to-super-wide angle lens. As I usually have one of these mounted on my 80D: Canon EF 70-200mm f2.8L IS, Tamron 100-400mm f/4.0-5.6, or my newest addition, the Rokinon 85mm f/1.2 SP (manual focus) lens.

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Oct 31, 2023 13:13:51   #
MJPerini
 
If I had to guess, I would say that the number of "Real Photographers" seen touring Europe or other destinations is probably exactly the same. In the past there was no cell phone option, so if you wanted pictures , you HAD to carry a camera of some sort. But carrying a camera doesn't really imply a level of skill.
The capabilities of modern cell phone cameras provide most people with the best pictures they have ever taken in a package that fits in their pocket.
Serious photographers have always been a relatively small group compared to casual photographers.

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Oct 31, 2023 13:20:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
FramerMCB wrote:
I often use my Samsung S21+ as my back-up/wide-to-super-wide angle lens. As I usually have one of these mounted on my 80D: Canon EF 70-200mm f2.8L IS, Tamron 100-400mm f/4.0-5.6, or my newest addition, the Rokinon 85mm f/1.2 SP (manual focus) lens.

Nothing like being prepared.
I just shoot with an 18-200.

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Oct 31, 2023 13:30:22   #
sschonfeld
 
Tours prohibit tripods- except perhaps true “photo tours”. Many of which provide fixed tripods on boats or special suvs.

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Oct 31, 2023 14:01:38   #
cyclespeed Loc: Calgary, Alberta Canada
 
The latest IOS and I assume android items come with fairly descent DOF.

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Oct 31, 2023 14:05:50   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Without the best equipment, we're only as good as everyone with a phone.

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Oct 31, 2023 14:20:18   #
BE KIND
 
User ID wrote:
I may try being kind if you try being useful.

Until then I will remain harshly honest and useful while you remain naive and useless.


BE KIND

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Oct 31, 2023 14:50:54   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
"CHG_CANON is correct again with his insight to photography.

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Oct 31, 2023 14:52:44   #
K52
 
I don’t understand the confusion. If you want “travel pics” or “ candid people shots” then use a cell phone. If you want small shots (8.5 x 11 +-) to frame, or for the scrap/crap book, then use either a cell phone or a full-sensor digital.

I you want to have control ( assumes you know what you are doing) then use a digital full frame DSLR, where you control depth of field, shadow detail, lens compression, wide-angle and tele-photo, etc.

If you want to do quality, large-scale photographs, there is still only one way to do that, and yes, it includes a tripod, switching lenses, and sometimes a long shutter speed!

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Oct 31, 2023 15:03:24   #
toxdoc42
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
We just got back from touring Europe and we probably saw at the most 10 people shooting with interchangeable lens cameras! Everyone else was using smartphones. Not saying that you’re not a photographer when using a smartphone! I use my Apple 14 Pro Max and I consider myself a photographer. I was even out of place using my little Sony RX100vii. Unbelievable! Not many years ago everyone who takes pictures were lugging around a big camera and lenses.


The best camera to have, is what you have with you, regardless of whether a mobile device or a regular camera. I am impressed by the quality achievable with a smartphone. But, I will continue to travel with my camera equipment. I also always shoot in manual, so I can get the effect I want.

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