Help! All white screen: I was using Tamrom28-200mm F/2.8-5.6 Di III RXD. Shooting on APCS mode on Hi+ on tracking zone with bird recognition turned on. What did I do wrong?

SophieLila Loc: Pace, FL

I was using Tamrom28-200mm F/2.8-5.6 Di III RXD. Shooting on APCS mode on Hi+ on tracking zone with bird recognition turned on. What did I do wrong?

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

SophieLila wrote:

I was using Tamrom28-200mm F/2.8-5.6 Di III RXD. Shooting on APCS mode on Hi+ on tracking zone with bird recognition turned on. What did I do wrong?

That's a mystery. The reported exposure is correct for broad daylight but it looks like the actual exposure was much longer.

There may be a problem with the program that is displaying the image on our screen. View it with a different program.

Or it may be a disconnect between the reported exposure and the actual exposure. Try removing the lens, wiping the contacts on the lens and the camera and re-mounting the lens to try again.

SophieLila Loc: Pace, FL

Thank you! The camera worked fine on full frame, as all the 200mm shots came out at the same settings. It was the 300mm shots, where i was using a 200mm lens in APSC. I will try that. It's a brand new camera.

SophieLila Loc: Pace, FL

OK so thanks for pointing me in the right direction. The camera told me that RAW Lossless Comp (L) is not available when shooting in APSC size range....Indeed, all other modes work (RAW S and RAW M), compressed RAW and uncompressed RAW...

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

SophieLila wrote:

OK so thanks for pointing me in the right direction. The camera told me that RAW Lossless Comp (L) is not available when shooting in APSC size range....Indeed, all other modes work (RAW S and RAW M), compressed RAW and uncompressed RAW...

The possibilities are full frame/APSC, compressed/uncompressed, 14-/12-bit, single/continuous. That's 16 possible permutations. Surely there could have been a better way for Sony to warn you that you had selected an unsupported combination before you clicked the shutter.

My A7 II and III may have the same issues but I have not explored all of these combinations. I haven't come across one that I want that doesn't work with the Sonys or with my Nikon Z7.

SophieLila Loc: Pace, FL

Indeed. I only had the 200mm and I thought I could just kick it into APSC to at least have a chance at the egret and the osprey LOL. In defense of the camera, it does warn you when you pick the combination. I didn’t see it and it happily let me shoot in an unsupported format. All good, thanks again for responding, it really helped.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

SophieLila wrote:

Indeed. I only had the 200mm and I thought I could just kick it into APSC to at least have a chance at the egret and the osprey LOL. In defense of the camera, it does warn you when you pick the combination. I didn’t see it and it happily let me shoot in an unsupported format. All good, thanks again for responding, it really helped.

There isn't any advantage in shooting in APSC rather than stay in full frame and cropping in post, and in post you can make a more exact crop.

User ID

SophieLila wrote:

Indeed. I only had the 200mm and I thought I could just kick it into APSC to at least have a chance at the egret and the osprey LOL. In defense of the camera, it does warn you when you pick the combination. I didn’t see it and it happily let me shoot in an unsupported format. All good, thanks again for responding, it really helped.

Unless your card capacity is sorely lacking, youll gain absolutely nothing by using the reduced apsc format with a FF lens.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

JohnSwanda wrote:

There isn't any advantage in shooting in APSC rather than stay in full frame and cropping in post, and in post you can make a more exact crop.

User ID wrote:

Unless your card capacity is sorely lacking, youll gain absolutely nothing by using the reduced apsc format with a FF lens.

APS-C raw files are less than half as large. They will record faster.

Another way to cut the raw files in half again and speed things up even more is to used compressed (lossy) which reduces the bit depth to 12 but if you are using continuous shooting Sony may not even give you a choice. To figure out whether you can get the full 14-bit DR, see Limitations on recording 14 bit images in RAW format

The good news is that we may never need the full 14-bit DR and continuous shooting at the same time.

Lossless compression is only available on a couple of models.

SophieLila Loc: Pace, FL

Yes, I think the is what I will do from now on. I upgraded from the A7iii after playing around with the IVr and just got this camera as my forever camera. I added a practice shot of a great white egret, at Big Lagoon State park in Pensacola FL.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

SophieLila wrote:

Yes, I think the is what I will do from now on. I upgraded from the A7iii after playing around with the IVr and just got this camera as my forever camera. I added a practice shot of a great white egret, at Big Lagoon State park in Pensacola FL.

Nice shot.

Even an APS-C crop leaves enough for a decent print.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

selmslie wrote:

APS-C raw files are less than half as large. They... (show quote)

The OP didn't say anything about needing smaller files. He seemed to want the longer "reach" in using APSC.

BebuLamar

JohnSwanda wrote:

The OP didn't say anything about needing smaller files. He seemed to want the longer "reach" in using APSC.

Shooting in APSC mode may allow the camera to maintain a high frame rate longer before the buffer is full. This may or may not matter because if you don't shoot burst then it doesn't matter.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

BebuLamar wrote:

Shooting in APSC mode may allow the camera to maintain a high frame rate longer before the buffer is full. This may or may not matter because if you don't shoot burst then it doesn't matter.

JohnSwanda wrote:

The OP didn't say anything about needing smaller files. He seemed to want the longer "reach" in using APSC.

The way for Sony to get the faster frame rate is by using smaller raw files and that includes reverting to 12-bit raw.

The detail discarded by lossy compression in this case (see above image) is simply rendered as noiseless black.

SophieLila Loc: Pace, FL

Thank you!