There Is No Duality About This
Oct 26, 2023 02:25:20 #
Oct 27, 2023 08:02:58 #
Oct 28, 2023 05:59:59 #
dakotacheryl wrote:
This is irrefutable ...
True Hamas is to blame but do you think the children should suffer. I think an acceptable solution should be where possible to let the children and mothers leave into Egypt and then it's game on. But no matter you can't kill an ideology for every father,son, mother daughter, sister, brother you kill you create more hate and more terrorism down the ages. So in time we will pay for Israeli's revenge and slaughter of the poor innocent people caught up in this catastrophe.
Oct 28, 2023 06:37:09 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
Bob Smith wrote:
True Hamas is to blame but do you think the children should suffer. I think an acceptable solution should be where possible to let the children and mothers leave into Egypt and then it's game on. But no matter you can't kill an ideology for every father,son, mother daughter, sister, brother you kill you create more hate and more terrorism down the ages. So in time we will pay for Israeli's revenge and slaughter of the poor innocent people caught up in this catastrophe.
Israel doesn't seem to understand pragmatism.
Oct 28, 2023 06:47:57 #
Bob Smith wrote:
True Hamas is to blame but do you think the children should suffer. I think an acceptable solution should be where possible to let the children and mothers leave into Egypt and then it's game on. But no matter you can't kill an ideology for every father,son, mother daughter, sister, brother you kill you create more hate and more terrorism down the ages. So in time we will pay for Israeli's revenge and slaughter of the poor innocent people caught up in this catastrophe.
Egypt won't let them in and Hamas won't let them leave.
Oct 28, 2023 07:06:06 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
dakotacheryl wrote:
Egypt won't let them in and Hamas won't let them leave.
So just kill them? (I'm not saying that is what you are saying. I'm just asking for clarification,)
Oct 28, 2023 07:16:14 #
thom w wrote:
So just kill them? (I'm not saying that is what you are saying. I'm just asking for clarification,)
Hamas is choosing to use civilians as human shields....the 9,000,000 Palestinians are allowing the 30,000 Hamas terrorists to rule their society.
If Hamas laid down their weapons there would be peace. Unfortunately, all Hamas wants is the elimination of Jews, Israel and anyone who doesn't think like them.
Oct 28, 2023 08:20:19 #
Not nine million Hamas is very much in the minority in the Left Bank, two million in Gaza. I don't think women and children have much choice at the moment and Israel telling civilians to go south and then bombing and shelling the south as well as the north is a disgrace. This could escalate into an all out war which would include the US and its allies don't forget Iran is a nuclear power and headed by fanatical Islamist's who would have no hesitation to use it. Freeing the hostages could calm things down but I think Israel are set on revenge and Genocide which is ironic to say the least but they are thinking with their hearts not their heads which will lead to repercussions which we will regret .
Oct 28, 2023 08:42:36 #
Genocide is the purpose of Hamas. Israel wants safety, removing Hamas is the only choice.
Oct 28, 2023 08:42:47 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
dakotacheryl wrote:
Hamas is choosing to use civilians as human shields....the 9,000,000 Palestinians are allowing the 30,000 Hamas terrorists to rule their society.
If Hamas laid down their weapons there would be peace. Unfortunately, all Hamas wants is the elimination of Jews, Israel and anyone who doesn't think like them.
If Hamas laid down their weapons there would be peace. Unfortunately, all Hamas wants is the elimination of Jews, Israel and anyone who doesn't think like them.
But you won't come right out and say it. You have a right to your answer but I had hoped it would be different. If you want to forget right and wrong, if Israel's goal it to live in peace, this will not move them in that direction. Helping Israel defend itself is one thing, and helping Israel commit genocide is something else entirely. I don't know what to make of you approving of Israel committing genocide but refusing to put into those words. If you can explain that that isn't what you are saying, I'll apologize, but I asked you a specific question and you wouldn't answer it directly and gave excuses to do so.
Oct 28, 2023 08:45:32 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
dakotacheryl wrote:
Genocide is the purpose of Hamas. Israel wants safety, removing Hamas is the only choice.
What they want is impossible to know, what they are doing is obvious. Netanyahu needs the boogy man of Hamas to stay in power and to not be convicted of corruption.
Oct 28, 2023 08:49:27 #
So, if an enemy who vows your total annihilation, starting with murdering, raping, beheading and kidnapping, chooses to then purposely hide behind civilians...you should just forget about protecting your country and your very existence from future attacks?
Israel has NO CHOICE, or they will have NO FUTURE.
Israel has NO CHOICE, or they will have NO FUTURE.
Oct 28, 2023 08:52:01 #
I read this article the other day...don't have an attribution:
Boycott of the Jews*
Some time ago, Iran's Supreme Leader Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei urged the Muslim World to boycott anything & everything that originates from the Jewish people.
In response, Meyer M. Treinkman, a Pharmacist, out of the kindness of his Heart, offered to assist the Muslims in their boycott of Jews, with the following details :
"Any Muslim who has Syphilis must not be cured by Salvarsan discovered by a Jew, Dr. Ehrlich.
He should not even try to find out whether he has Syphilis, because the Wasserman Test is the discovery of a Jew.
If a Muslim suspects that he has Gonorrhea, he must not seek diagnosis, because he will be using the diagnosis method invented by a Jew-
Neissner.
"A Muslim who has Heart Disease must not use Digitalis, a discovery by a Jew, Ludwig Traube.
Should he suffer with a Toothache, he must not use Novocaine, a discovery of the Jews, Widal and Weil.
If a Muslim has Diabetes, he must not use Insulin, the result of Research by Minkowsky, a Jew.
If one has a Headache, he must shun Pyramidon and Antypyrin, discovered by the Jews, Spiro and Ellege.
Muslims with convulsions must put up with them because it was a Jew, Oscar Leibreich, who proposed the use of Chloral Hydrate.
Arabs must do likewise with their psychic ailments because Sigmund Freud, father of Psychoanalysis, was a Jew.
Should a Muslim child get Diphtheria, he must refrain from the “Schick" Reaction which was invented by the Jew,
Bella Schick.
"Muslims should be ready to die in great numbers and must not permit treatment of Ear & Brain damage, which happens to be the pioneering work of a Jewish Nobel Prize winner,
Robert Baram.
They should continue to die or remain crippled by Infantile *Polio* because the Inventor of the *Polio vaccine* is a Jew,
*Jonas Salk*
"Muslims must refuse to use Streptomycin and continue to die of Tuberculosis, because a Jew, Zalman Waxman, invented the wonder Drug against this killer disease.
Muslim Doctors must discard all inventions, discoveries & improvements by Dermatologist Judas Sehn Benedict ( a Jew), or the lung specialist, Frawnkel ( a Jew) and of many others amongst the renowned Jewish Scientists and Medical Experts.
"In short, good and loyal Muslims properly and fittingly should remain afflicted with Syphilis, Gonorrhea, Heart Disease, Headaches, Typhus, Diabetes, Mental Disorders, Polio Convulsions and Tuberculosis without taking any Treatment and be proud to obey the Islamic boycott."
Oh, by the way, don't call for a Doctor on your Cell Phone because the Cell Phone was invented in Israel by a Jewish Engineer.
Meanwhile someone can ask-
What contributions have the Muslims made to the field of Medicine ?"
The Islamic population across the World,
is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is
*1.2 Billion or 20% of the World's population*
Muslims have received the following *Nobel Prizes*:
*Literature*:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
*Peace*:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1990 - Elias James Corey
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
*Economics: 0(Zero)*
*Physics: 0(Zero)*
*Medicine*:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
TOTAL: *7 (SEVEN)*
The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is Fourteen Million or about 0.02% of the world's population.
Jews have received the following *Nobel Prizes*:
*Literature*:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
*Peace*:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
*Physics*:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
*Economics*:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
*Medicine*:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
1996- Lu RoseIacovino
TOTAL: *129*
The Jews are NOT promoting brainwashing children in Military Training camps, teaching their Children how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non-Muslims.
The Jews don't hijack Aeroplanes, nor kill Athletes at the Olympics, nor blow themselves up in German Restaurants.
There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a Church.
There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people. The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.
Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in Good Education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.
Muslims must ask-
*what they did for Mankind* before they demand that Mankind respects them.
Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following sentence really says it all:
'If the Arabs put down their Weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their Weapons today, there would be no more Israel." - Benjamin Netanyahu
Boycott of the Jews*
Some time ago, Iran's Supreme Leader Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei urged the Muslim World to boycott anything & everything that originates from the Jewish people.
In response, Meyer M. Treinkman, a Pharmacist, out of the kindness of his Heart, offered to assist the Muslims in their boycott of Jews, with the following details :
"Any Muslim who has Syphilis must not be cured by Salvarsan discovered by a Jew, Dr. Ehrlich.
He should not even try to find out whether he has Syphilis, because the Wasserman Test is the discovery of a Jew.
If a Muslim suspects that he has Gonorrhea, he must not seek diagnosis, because he will be using the diagnosis method invented by a Jew-
Neissner.
"A Muslim who has Heart Disease must not use Digitalis, a discovery by a Jew, Ludwig Traube.
Should he suffer with a Toothache, he must not use Novocaine, a discovery of the Jews, Widal and Weil.
If a Muslim has Diabetes, he must not use Insulin, the result of Research by Minkowsky, a Jew.
If one has a Headache, he must shun Pyramidon and Antypyrin, discovered by the Jews, Spiro and Ellege.
Muslims with convulsions must put up with them because it was a Jew, Oscar Leibreich, who proposed the use of Chloral Hydrate.
Arabs must do likewise with their psychic ailments because Sigmund Freud, father of Psychoanalysis, was a Jew.
Should a Muslim child get Diphtheria, he must refrain from the “Schick" Reaction which was invented by the Jew,
Bella Schick.
"Muslims should be ready to die in great numbers and must not permit treatment of Ear & Brain damage, which happens to be the pioneering work of a Jewish Nobel Prize winner,
Robert Baram.
They should continue to die or remain crippled by Infantile *Polio* because the Inventor of the *Polio vaccine* is a Jew,
*Jonas Salk*
"Muslims must refuse to use Streptomycin and continue to die of Tuberculosis, because a Jew, Zalman Waxman, invented the wonder Drug against this killer disease.
Muslim Doctors must discard all inventions, discoveries & improvements by Dermatologist Judas Sehn Benedict ( a Jew), or the lung specialist, Frawnkel ( a Jew) and of many others amongst the renowned Jewish Scientists and Medical Experts.
"In short, good and loyal Muslims properly and fittingly should remain afflicted with Syphilis, Gonorrhea, Heart Disease, Headaches, Typhus, Diabetes, Mental Disorders, Polio Convulsions and Tuberculosis without taking any Treatment and be proud to obey the Islamic boycott."
Oh, by the way, don't call for a Doctor on your Cell Phone because the Cell Phone was invented in Israel by a Jewish Engineer.
Meanwhile someone can ask-
What contributions have the Muslims made to the field of Medicine ?"
The Islamic population across the World,
is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is
*1.2 Billion or 20% of the World's population*
Muslims have received the following *Nobel Prizes*:
*Literature*:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
*Peace*:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1990 - Elias James Corey
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
*Economics: 0(Zero)*
*Physics: 0(Zero)*
*Medicine*:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
TOTAL: *7 (SEVEN)*
The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is Fourteen Million or about 0.02% of the world's population.
Jews have received the following *Nobel Prizes*:
*Literature*:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
*Peace*:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
*Physics*:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
*Economics*:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
*Medicine*:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
1996- Lu RoseIacovino
TOTAL: *129*
The Jews are NOT promoting brainwashing children in Military Training camps, teaching their Children how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non-Muslims.
The Jews don't hijack Aeroplanes, nor kill Athletes at the Olympics, nor blow themselves up in German Restaurants.
There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a Church.
There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people. The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.
Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in Good Education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.
Muslims must ask-
*what they did for Mankind* before they demand that Mankind respects them.
Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following sentence really says it all:
'If the Arabs put down their Weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their Weapons today, there would be no more Israel." - Benjamin Netanyahu
Oct 28, 2023 08:52:58 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
dakotacheryl wrote:
So, if an enemy who vows your total annihilation, starting with murdering, raping, beheading and kidnapping, chooses to then purposely hide behind civilians...you should just forget about protecting your country and your very existence from future attacks?
Israel has NO CHOICE, or they will have NO FUTURE.
Israel has NO CHOICE, or they will have NO FUTURE.
If a murderer takes refuge in your house, do you approve of police killing you in order to apprehend said murderer?
I notice that you turned from seeing Hamas as the boogeyman to seeing Muslims in general as the enemy. You do realize that Netanyahu himself has been charged with corruption by Israel? I'm sure your religion hasn't influenced your bias in any way.
Oct 28, 2023 08:54:13 #
dakotacheryl wrote:
Hamas is choosing to use civilians as human shields....the 9,000,000 Palestinians are allowing the 30,000 Hamas terrorists to rule their society.
If Hamas laid down their weapons there would be peace. Unfortunately, all Hamas wants is the elimination of Jews, Israel and anyone who doesn't think like them.
If Hamas laid down their weapons there would be peace. Unfortunately, all Hamas wants is the elimination of Jews, Israel and anyone who doesn't think like them.
Regretfully, this is the mindset of all terrorist organizations. Eliminate your enemy, Jews or otherwise, at all costs.
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