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Oct 24, 2023 20:02:20   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
With B&W film, using a good hypo clearing agent before the final wash, and a wetting agent after the wash, yields negatives that last at least 50 years (all of mine are intact from the late '60s and early '70s).

Surprisingly, mine are still OK. The oldest B&W negatives I have date to the late 1950’s {we moved away from that home in Feb 1960}. I guess the pro’s did it right.

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Oct 24, 2023 20:50:37   #
twb930s Loc: Aldie, Virginia
 
Mostly, I use various Nikon cameras from an F to an F5 along with FE, FM, etc. I also have some rangefinder Leica's, my father's Contax IIIA and some Canon SLRs and Pentax Spotmatics. I try to keep them all working through occasional usage. My main film camera , however is a Hasselblad 503CW (for which I lust a digital back) but that's a 120 camera.

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Oct 24, 2023 21:04:48   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Architect1776 wrote:
It might be interesting to see what 35mm camera people use here for those who still use 35mm film on occasion etc.
NO 120, sheet films or other formats. Just 35mm.
I use a F-1 mostly and a FTb and EF occasionally to keep them exercised.
Let's hear from you all on 35mm film cameras.


Have things changed much?

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Oct 24, 2023 21:52:54   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 


Troll

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Oct 24, 2023 22:19:44   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
I have a quite a few 35MM cameras. My favorite is a Minolta 9XI. I generally use Portra 400. If Kodachrome 64 was available I would use that.

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Oct 24, 2023 22:36:09   #
bnsf
 
Still wish I had my mother's 35mm box camera. All I remember was that the camera was square and black in color with the lens being built into the camera. Sorta like a bridge camera in today's market. Never used it so I really do not know if it still worked or what type of film it used.

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Oct 24, 2023 22:37:49   #
bnsf
 
I use my Father's Argus C3 35mm camera with his light meteor and the Brown Leather Case and Strap.

I thought my Sony a99ii Digital Camera took a long time to get used to the Argus was the hardest camera to set up and get used to using in. There was no manual on how to use the camera. So I had to take some of the settings I used on the a99ii camera. Sometimes the photos turned out great but I lost a lot of the photos too.

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Oct 24, 2023 22:44:05   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
selmslie wrote:
I have not tested the Kentmere and Arista films but there are two additional films in that range. Tmax 400 and Delta 400 are excellent choices.

These ISO 400 films are quite different in character and they respond differently to a variety of developers. They are not fungible. The Kodak and Ilford versions can actually achieve their claimed ISO performance with the appropriate developer, the others may fall short by a stop or more.

I have found that claims that Diafine can produce much higher effective ISO performance for Tri-X are somewhat exaggerated. Nevertheless, Diafine does a good job and can simplifiy the development process.

I have also found that one of the popular developers (D76/ID11) will reduce grain nicely at the expense of almost a full stop of film speed.
I have not tested the Kentmere and Arista films bu... (show quote)


Diafine is a love it or hate it developer. I think controlled experimentation is in order for anyone who pushes film. My own experience with Diafine was that exposure indexes above 1600 were marginal. There is simply no substitute for real shadow detail, and above native ISO, it goes quickly. My best results were at 1600.

As a teen, I used a lot of Acufine, Diafine's sibling. I usually pushed Tri-X to 1280 with usable (if contrasty and grainy) results. Sometimes, we accepted compromises to get any image at all...

I used a lot of Delta 400 and T-Max 400 in the late 1990s. Our Kodak TSR gave me a brick of T-Max 100 and a brick of T-Max 400 and a gallon of T-Max Developer concentrate to play with, so I used the 100 to illustrate some training manuals. It was super-sharp and virtually grainless. The 400 had a tonal scale that took some getting used to, but once I adjusted my agitation style and development time, it was likable.

Delta 400 I found to be a bit easier to work with than T-Max 400.

Still, after 1977, my favorite film was HP-5, then HP-5 Plus. It was especially good in ID-11 Plus, but Ilford had to take the "Plus" (a chelating agent that sequestered dissolved silver to prevent it from re-depositing on the processed image) out of it. There was something about it that produced luscious tones.

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Oct 24, 2023 23:14:49   #
adm
 
burkphoto wrote:
Diafine is a love it or hate it developer. I think controlled experimentation is in order for anyone who pushes film. My own experience with Diafine was that exposure indexes above 1600 were marginal. There is simply no substitute for real shadow detail, and above native ISO, it goes quickly. My best results were at 1600.

As a teen, I used a lot of Acufine, Diafine's sibling. I usually pushed Tri-X to 1280 with usable (if contrasty and grainy) results. Sometimes, we accepted compromises to get any image at all...

I used a lot of Delta 400 and T-Max 400 in the late 1990s. Our Kodak TSR gave me a brick of T-Max 100 and a brick of T-Max 400 and a gallon of T-Max Developer concentrate to play with, so I used the 100 to illustrate some training manuals. It was super-sharp and virtually grainless. The 400 had a tonal scale that took some getting used to, but once I adjusted my agitation style and development time, it was likable.

Delta 400 I found to be a bit easier to work with than T-Max 400.

Still, after 1977, my favorite film was HP-5, then HP-5 Plus. It was especially good in ID-11 Plus, but Ilford had to take the "Plus" (a chelating agent that sequestered dissolved silver to prevent it from re-depositing on the processed image) out of it. There was something about it that produced luscious tones.
Diafine is a love it or hate it developer. I think... (show quote)


T-Max 100 is a nice film but I never cared for T-Max 400. I had problems with blocked highlights and did not care for the film's overall tonality. I find Delta 400 to be much easier to work with; it also has a more appealing tonality in my opinion. I find Delta 400 to be not unlike Tri-X but with much finer grain. HP-5 is a great film and may have the most beautiful tonality of any film if processed properly.

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Oct 25, 2023 00:30:56   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Youtube is chock full of videos on film cameras of virtually every make, the same with film and techniques. As with this forum, some offerings are more helpful than others but all without the typical squabbling we often find here. And you can always ditch what you are watching and go somewhere more to your liking.

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Oct 25, 2023 04:20:24   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Still, after 1977, my favorite film was HP-5, then HP-5 Plus. It was especially good in ID-11 Plus, but Ilford had to take the "Plus" (a chelating agent that sequestered dissolved silver to prevent it from re-depositing on the processed image) out of it. There was something about it that produced luscious tones.

I did a project ten years ago that called for 4x5 negatives that the client wanted to keep. I wanted a backup set for myself so I shot two of each image. By then I had settled on HP5 for large and medium format. I found it to be better than T-Max 400 and much better than any of the Tri-X versions.

I sent the client's set off to a lab where it was developed in tanks using replenished T-Max developer. I developed my set in trays using Xtol 1+1. The results were indistinguishable.

For the 35mm format I preferred either FP4 or T-Max 100 since I could make up the loss of film speed by opening the aperture a couple of stops.

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Oct 25, 2023 04:35:09   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
RodeoMan wrote:
As with this forum, some offerings are more helpful than others but all without the typical squabbling we often find here.

The only squabbler has been Architect1776.

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Oct 25, 2023 05:48:16   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
bnsf wrote:
Still wish I had my mother's 35mm box camera. All I remember was that the camera was square and black in color with the lens being built into the camera. Sorta like a bridge camera in today's market. Never used it so I really do not know if it still worked or what type of film it used.

Many of the “box cameras” used ‘120’ film or something similar.

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Oct 25, 2023 11:02:35   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
There are many here not that into film and do not follow your film section.
Please don't troll this post.


And many here that don’t shoot film might think the film section is where this belongs. I personally don’t care, but I see value in his mentioning the film section since this post will attract film shooters that may not be aware of the film forum.

On the other hand I might enjoy some infighting between the Canon fanboys.

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Oct 25, 2023 11:10:12   #
BebuLamar
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:

On the other hand I might enjoy some infighting between the Canon fanboys.


No Paul didn't fight back. He didn't want to fight his fellow Canonette.

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