suterjo wrote:
I still have about a dozen rolls of HS Ektachrome in my freezer downstairs but haven't used any in decades. Don't know if I can even get it processed.
If it's been in the freezer all that time it will probably be fine. There are plenty of labs that can process it for you.
I am totally digital at this point. I enjoy the ability to do image processing in the digital world. I waited until digital equaled the image quality of film before I jumped to Pentax digital. I had invested so much money in lenses that I didn't want to convert to anything other than Pentax.
suterjo wrote:
I am totally digital at this point. I enjoy the ability to do image processing in the digital world. I waited until digital equaled the image quality of film before I jumped to Pentax digital. I had invested so much money in lenses that I didn't want to convert to anything other than Pentax.
If you rely on autofocus and in-camera aperture settings you might want to stick with Pentax.
With both my mirrorless Sonys and my Z7 I can use my older manual focus lenses including Leica, Zeiss, Voigtlander and Nikon.
CHG_CANON wrote:
The best thing about film is your memories get better even if the pictures didn't.
I think digital, in general, and UHH specifically have changed our perception of images -- or more exactly: acceptable images. I've scanned probably 50% of all my available 35mm negatives from the 80s and 90s. Some digital processing can improve nearly every image, and not just the clean-up of scanning anomalies. But in 'modern' film, my biggest change was learning about exposing to the right and adding +1/3 to +1 (even +2) stops of light to film. Then, I scan and edit the resulting JPEGs to the end-result desired. The only disappointment I have now in film is still the occasional missed / soft focus, and sometimes a crummy roll of (too) expired film. The only film available today is really only 'premium'. Given most all remaining equipment worth shooting film is premium too, the results should come out better too, with a bit of effort and knowledge from the modern film photographer.
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There are plenty of lesser films available from Kentmere, Arista, and others. A visit to any online photo store that sells film will find a range of prices. These are 36 exposure rolls at B&H:
Kodak Professional Tri-X 400 $11.99
Ilford HP5 $8.95
Rollei RPX 400 7.99
Kentmere Pan 400 $6.50
Arista EDU Ultra 400 $5.99
burkphoto wrote:
There are plenty of lesser films available from Kentmere, Arista, and others. A visit to any online photo store that sells film will find a range of prices. These are 36 exposure rolls at B&H:
Kodak Professional Tri-X 400 $11.99
Ilford HP5 $8.95
Rollei RPX 400 7.99
Kentmere Pan 400 $6.50
Arista EDU Ultra 400 $5.99
Agreed. I shoot a lot of Ilford HP5 and FP4, as well as Kodak Gold and Pro Image. The differences from the highest priced options to the mid-range are subtle, more in the price than the images. You really have to know where to look to find any difference, if at all, especially after editing the scans. Alas, if you pay others for the processing, the price is the same for all rolls.
CHG_CANON wrote:
Agreed. I shoot a lot of Ilford HP5 and FP4, as well as Kodak Gold and Pro Image. The differences from the highest priced options to the mid-range are subtle, more in the price than the images. You really have to know where to look to find any difference, if at all, especially after editing the scans. Alas, if you pay others for the processing, the price is the same for all rolls.
Yes true! Back in the 80's and 90's I just use whatever film I like the best regardless of price. The expensive ones were only slightly better than the cheap ones but the prices of either are cheap enough and didn't make a different as the higher cost was in the processing.
CHG_CANON wrote:
Now, about 13 years ago, I cycled through an inherited AE-1, a T90, and an F-1. I added a few FD lenses which were selling relatively cheap back then, at just the start of the mirrorless uses for these lenses, circa 2010.
But, what I was finding was I wasn't getting as good images as from my AF equipment. Film was / is too expensive for inferior results. My final move was to an EOS 1v to share my EF lenses between DSLR and this SLR, a 1-series professional body almost as sophisticated and capable as my EOS 5DIII. My next move was to sell-off the MF bodies. And, as a final step, picked up a used Sony a7II to see if I'd like the FD lenses on a MILC. The answer was an emphatic YES.
As a reminder, we have an UHH
Film Section. Today, 269 subscribers, come one, come all!!
Film-wise, I bought up several large lots of 'freezer sales' from here at UHH, now with probably more film in my freezer than I shoot the rest of this lifetime, nearly all expired. New and old stocks I prefer:
New - B&WKodak Tri-X 400
Ilford Delta 400
Kodak TMAX 100 & 400
Fuji Neopan Acros 100
New ColorKodak Portra 400
Kodak Ektar 100
Expired B&WKodak T400CN
various expired rolls of any of above
Expired ColorFuji Press 800
Fuji Superia 400
Fuji NPH 400
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Hadn't thought to search for a film section. Thanks for reminding me.
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Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
selmslie wrote:
If you rely on autofocus and in-camera aperture settings you might want to stick with Pentax.
Often I use F/16 set at the lens and ‘hyper focal’ settings with my {manual focus} Takumar Lenses.
CHG_CANON wrote:
Agreed. I shoot a lot of Ilford HP5 and FP4, as well as Kodak Gold and Pro Image. The differences from the highest priced options to the mid-range are subtle, more in the price than the images. You really have to know where to look to find any difference, if at all, especially after editing the scans. Alas, if you pay others for the processing, the price is the same for all rolls.
I've always been a bit of a control freak when it comes to tonality and color. Since I started digitizing negatives from my past, I've found that copying a negative with a digital camera and macro lens in raw file format gives me far better tonal control over JPEGs and prints than I ever had in the optical world. I knew that would be the case, having run a scanning lab full of top shelf Kodak Bremson scanners that yielded similar results.
What has made this feasible and practical for me over the last few years, has been Negative Lab Pro, a plug-in for Lightroom Classic. It's just been updated to version 3, and it is VERY powerful and easy to use. I highly recommend it for those who own macro lenses and have piles of old negatives in storage. It's not cheap or free, but if you don't want to waste time trying to convert negatives with curve inversions, it's well worth $99. Upgrade from version 2 is $49.
It is amazing what you can pull out of cheap film if it is processed correctly.
Amazingly, many films are still available in 100'/30.5m rolls, which yield 18-36 exposure cartridges when spooled in a Lloyd's or Watson film loader. I still have a Lloyd's loader I bought in 1968. The same one is sold new, today. Budget conscious photographers can save a lot by spooling bulk film into their own reloadable cartridges.
Processing B&W film is done at home easily. Color is a little trickier, because temperature control requires a sous vidé device (kitchen tempering tool) or at least care and attention to a water jacket or water bath around the tank. I did it for decades. With B&W film, using a good hypo clearing agent before the final wash, and a wetting agent after the wash, yields negatives that last at least 50 years (all of mine are intact from the late '60s and early '70s).
suterjo wrote:
I still have about a dozen rolls of HS Ektachrome in my freezer downstairs but haven't used any in decades. Don't know if I can even get it processed.
You can if it is E-6 process. If it is E-4 or earlier, I believe it cannot be processed now. There are still labs that process E-6 film. I use Denver Digital Imaging in Denver, CO.
adm wrote:
You can if it is E-6 process. If it is E-4 or earlier, I believe it cannot be processed now. There are still labs that process E-6 film. I use Denver Digital Imaging in Denver, CO.
If you're a really brave soul, you can probably ferret out the formulas for E-4 and do it yourself, but it would be expensive, difficult, and dangerous.
E-6 is used for Fujichrome and Ektachrome today, so both kits for home processing and labs are around that still do it.
Most of the E-6 labs batch their film together and do several days or weeks worth of receipts at the same time. That way, they can ensure the chemistry is fresh and "in process control," which simply means the chemical activity is right for near-perfect color and density. So patience may be required!
Slide mounts are getting really pricey these days... $.25 each is about as cheap as I see them at FreeStyle in lots of 100.
burkphoto wrote:
There are plenty of lesser films available from Kentmere, Arista, and others. A visit to any online photo store that sells film will find a range of prices. These are 36 exposure rolls at B&H:
Kodak Professional Tri-X 400 $11.99
Ilford HP5 $8.95
Rollei RPX 400 7.99
Kentmere Pan 400 $6.50
Arista EDU Ultra 400 $5.99
I have not tested the Kentmere and Arista films but there are two additional films in that range. Tmax 400 and Delta 400 are excellent choices.
These ISO 400 films are quite different in character and they respond differently to a variety of developers. They are not
fungible. The Kodak and Ilford versions can actually achieve their claimed ISO performance with the appropriate developer, the others may fall short by a stop or more.
I have found that claims that Diafine can produce much higher effective ISO performance for Tri-X are somewhat exaggerated. Nevertheless, Diafine does a good job and can simplifiy the development process.
I have also found that one of the popular developers (D76/ID11) will reduce grain nicely at the expense of almost a full stop of film speed.
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