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Oct 18, 2023 12:18:50   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
joer wrote:
I think most of them would embrace it as they did the technology of the time. They were not stuck in past processes.

Just like painting tools eventually evolved into the camera and film, then digital. AI is the next step replacing post process and then the camera. It's a great time to be alive.


Painting is still around, so is film. AI won't replace the camera or it will no longer be photography. There's a place for it all.

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Oct 18, 2023 12:19:52   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Lewis & Clark with GPS? Christopher Columbus? Marco Polo?

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Oct 18, 2023 12:36:11   #
wandering stranger Loc: Right now Vail, AZ
 
I remember seeing a Ansel Adams interview where he was asked about digital. He said he was sad that would not live to it become a useful tool.

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Oct 18, 2023 12:45:37   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
chemsaf wrote:
I think my photography hero, Robert Capa, would love the modern lenses and not being limited by 36 exposure film. As a war correspondent he might find the equipment more fragile than the Nikons he used.


There is nothing fragile about modern pro level equipment.

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Oct 18, 2023 12:47:15   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
They would say... "show me how to operate it."

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Oct 18, 2023 13:13:21   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Painting is still around, so is film. AI won't replace the camera or it will no longer be photography. There's a place for it all.


The horse and buggy is still around but the automobile is ubiquitous. So it is with photography.

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Oct 18, 2023 13:37:37   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
Ansel Adams adopted Kodachrome in his day so I feel he would have grooved on the new improved stuff.

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Oct 18, 2023 14:06:09   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
maxlieberman wrote:
One of the factors that made Ansel Adams great was the meticulous care he lavished on the post-processing of the day; the art of enlarging, cropping, rectifying, burning and dodging; deciding what paper to use, what chemicals to develop, etc. Is that very much different from what we do? I think they would have been thrilled to have the creative tools we have.


You are correct. The computer jockey who lavishes the most "meticulous" care with the AI request he makes is obvivously as great of a craftsperson or artist that Ansel was with his post processing of his analog images or any number of today's photographers are with their work on their digital images. After all look at the results they get. I'm being tongue in cheek here. Actually I don't mind AI nearly as much so long as the people who use it and share their results are up front and out in the open about their images being created from an AI program. Max, for me, I get more enjoyment from seeing your bird images and knowing that you had to get up off your duff, get your camera gear together, get yourself out doors and do the work to get the images and enjoying yourself while doing that. Thanks.

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Oct 18, 2023 14:12:02   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
chemsaf wrote:
I think my photography hero, Robert Capa, would love the modern lenses and not being limited by 36 exposure film. As a war correspondent he might find the equipment more fragile than the Nikons he used.


I agree about Robert Capa, but think what made him great was more "F-8 and being there" You do bring up an interesting thought that I can't make a contribution to and that is "what modern camera would be the most "war zone" capable in terms of its capabilities and reliabililty?

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Oct 18, 2023 14:40:21   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
"f/8 and be there" assumes you couldn't afford better equipment.

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Oct 18, 2023 14:59:42   #
User ID
 
pecohen wrote:
I'm sure there would be a few who think all of the new capabilities amount to cheating, just as there are today photographers who reject the use of editing software and think you just have to get it right in the camera.

Double exposure prevention was the supreme ultimate level of cheating.

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Oct 18, 2023 15:04:01   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
On reflection, I think that most of them would probably like the cameras, lenses, and software. I doubt that they would like the printers, especially the B&W folks.

But remember...techno-geeks adopted digital music (CDs) almost immediately. Musicians and critical listeners took longer. This was after some other technologies, like half-speed mastering, half-pound discs, and a couple of others, were quickly accepted. Other choices, like dbx encoding, were just a flash in the pan. Four-channel audio never really caught on with anyone.

Digital movies are approaching 30 years old. But digital filming and production has faced a lot of inertia.

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Oct 18, 2023 15:15:12   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
"f/8 and be there" assumes you couldn't afford better equipment.


It could also "assume" that you were in places where you wouldn't have been able to buy that better equipment even if you had been able to afford it such as being the only civilian photographer to go ashore on D-Day or working in Vietnam where your life would be lost when you stepped on a landmine. I appreciate the work Capa and other war zone photographers were and are able to produce with the equipment they can afford.

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Oct 18, 2023 15:28:32   #
maxlieberman Loc: 19027
 
RodeoMan wrote:
You are correct. The computer jockey who lavishes the most "meticulous" care with the AI request he makes is obvivously as great of a craftsperson or artist that Ansel was with his post processing of his analog images or any number of today's photographers are with their work on their digital images. After all look at the results they get. I'm being tongue in cheek here. Actually I don't mind AI nearly as much so long as the people who use it and share their results are up front and out in the open about their images being created from an AI program. Max, for me, I get more enjoyment from seeing your bird images and knowing that you had to get up off your duff, get your camera gear together, get yourself out doors and do the work to get the images and enjoying yourself while doing that. Thanks.
You are correct. The computer jockey who lavishes... (show quote)


Thank you for the compliment.

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Oct 18, 2023 15:51:48   #
Manny Myers
 
No myth; he was interviewed...

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