Please list Biden's positive accomplishments that make everyday life better (Page 6): I'd rather have a person that wants to pursue a fair election process than your criminal in chief...

Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US

DaveO wrote:

Yeah, I'd much rather have a person who attempted to throw out the vote of the people and install himself as president.

To construe that as happiness is remiss.

I'd rather have a person that wants to pursue a fair election process than your criminal in chief Biden. Hope your proud of yourself

Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US

Triple G wrote:

Trump won't win; find a better candidate.

https://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com/was-it-worth-it/

Alone among all segments of the American Jewish community, it was the Orthodox community that supported Donald Trump. A survey conducted by Ami Magazine found that 83 percent of Orthodox Jews surveyed said they would vote for the president, compared to 13 percent who said they would vote for Joe Biden. Regardless of the precise accuracy of these numbers, no one has contested the fact that a significant majority of the Orthodox community, from charedi to modern Orthodox, were enthusiastic supporters of the president.

The reasons for this backing, in stark contrast to the rest of the American Jewish community, revolved around the President’s strong support for Israel; his identification with conservative family values exemplified by naming conservative justices to the Supreme Court and other federal courts; and his lack of support for strong preventive pandemic public health measures, which Orthodox groups felt discriminated against them in their religious and social lives.

There is no question that under President Trump, the United States has taken many favorable actions toward Israel: moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem; recognizing Israel’s legal rights in West Bank settlements; taking a leading role in the recognition of Israel by three Muslim states; withdrawing from the Iran nuclear agreement, which the Israeli government opposed; and recognizing the Golan Heights as belonging to Israel. There is no question that both by the Israeli government and the vast majority of Israelis have seen these actions as beneficial to Israel security and its acceptance in the Arab world. Since most Orthodox Jews, other than the charedi world, are ardent Zionists—myself included—the community’s support for the president was understandable. I welcome these policy achievements.

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My question, however, is was it worth it?

In my opinion, the answer clearly is no.

Where to begin? Perhaps most glaringly, Donald Trump is largely responsible for the worst polarization of the American public since the Civil War. He has appealed to the worst instincts of American citizens. It is no accident that white supremacist groups see an ally in him. In his desire to prevent America from admitting people who come from the poor and largely black countries he referred to as “s…h… countries” in search of a better life. During the 2016 election campaign, President Trump infamously referred to Mexicans as “drug dealers, criminals, rapists.” His condemnation of white supremacists marching in Charlottesville was lukewarm at best. Rather than speak out against violence at his rallies, he often has given implied encouragement to violent attacks against his enemies. This president welcomes any group that is allied with him, no matter how repugnant its ideology or outrageous its conspiracy theories. Check out what the Proud Boys and QAnon stand for, and questioners’ inability to get President Trump to condemn them and poison they spread.

This president has thrived on division, and America has suffered as a result.

Donald Trump has made lying so normal that media stopped counting the number of outright lies after they numbered in the thousands. His assault on the truth has been poisonous to political discourse and to the ethical climate of America. He shattered the rules long ago, when he started by declaring the lie that President Obama was not born in the United States. His statement that the crowds at his inauguration were the largest ever was a boldfaced lie. This set the standard for the avalanche of lies that has characterized his presidency ever since. And most recently, his claim that he won the current election “by a landslide” and that the election “was rigged” repeatedly has been proven to be the greatest lie of his presidency—with devastating results.

As far as his personal qualities are concerned, it is obvious that he is a malignant narcissist. He views everything through the lens of “what is in it for me.” Despite having become inured over the years to his ugly, untrue, and indecent remarks, I was taken aback when, based on reliable and multiple sources, rather than visit a cemetery where 2000 Marines were buried after a storied WWI battle, he was quoted as calling these dead soldiers “suckers” and “losers.” President Trump vigorously objected to lowering American flags after Sen. John McCain’s death because McCain was “a f…… loser.” Given the Trumpian approach to life, it is understandable that he would find it incomprehensible to give your life for a cause greater than yourself. Let someone else make the ultimate sacrifice.

Donald Trump is the very antithesis of the human values we Orthodox Jews try to teach our children. He is known for having withheld payment from the workmen who constructed his buildings; he is a pathological liar; he is an adulterer and sexual predator; he routinely engages in either false or true lashon harah; he belittles people with disabilities; and as events on January 6th showed, he incites his followers to lethal violence. Agreed, many politicians are not paragons of virtue, but Donald Trump’s indecency puts him in a class by himself. His meanness has percolated through the entire country, creating a new low for what is publicly permissible. His often-disgusting behavior has consequences. It is therefore one thing for many Orthodox Jews to appreciate some of his foreign and domestic policies; it is quite another to venerate him as a virtual messiah.

Finally, as a physician, I am incredulous at how Donald Trump has politicized the public health response to the covid pandemic. True-blue Republicans model themselves after the president by regarding mask-wearing and social distancing as medically worthless and an affront to their inalienable rights as Americans. His attempt to politicize the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention by requiring its public health pronouncements to be vetted by his staff for possible violations of the Trump political line is outrageous and a threat to lives.

America and the world witnessed the climax of President Trump’s poisonous megalomania on January 6, when, incited by the leader of the free world, hundreds of thugs forced their way into the Capitol building in Washington DC, with the ostensible goal of having the vice president and Congress overturn the election. Five people died in this assault, and even some Republicans—pathetically few—have concluded that the president should be removed from office.

Even the conservative Wall Street Journal has called for his resignation.

Was the Trump presidency worth it for Orthodox Jews? I do not believe so. Is there anything more important for us than what the president has done for Israel? Yes, there should be — the damage that he has inflicted on America. The president has let the genie of internecine hatred out of the bottle, and there is no putting it back in the near future.

I am afraid that the Orthodox Jewish community has made a Faustian bargain with its enthusiastic support for the president. In exchange for his positive policies toward Israel, I fear long term consequences of his presidency that will be harmful to America and therefore to Israel.

The president has unleashed antidemocratic forces that, historically, have not been kind to Jews. Among the potpourri of groups represented in the Capitol invasion were anti-Semites. I do not naively discount enemies of Israel on the far left, and I am concerned about the potential weakening of support for Israel as staunch supporters are voted out of office. But the security of Israel is not enhanced by the clear and present danger to American democracy and its moral foundation, resulting from the distrust of its institutions by millions of Americans, and the hatred of the other that Donald Trump and his enablers have fostered assiduously over the past four years. This hatred already has led to the unprecedented violence in the Capitol building on January 6 that led to the deaths of five people and injuries to many more. The mob even built gallows on which to hang Vice President Pence. It is most probable that more violence will follow.

There is a feeling of unease that pervades the country as President Trump reluctantly leaves the White House, no doubt secure in the belief that his followers will perpetuate a stabbed-in-the-back version of the election that he “won by a landslide.” He leaves a country in which people are divided into warring camps of Republicans and Democrats. Outrageous conspiracy theories abound, catalyzed by social media. This demagogic president has skillfully used his thousands of tweets to vilify his enemies, reward his sycophants, and propound egregious lies. The truth has been reduced to an option among the many versions of what has in fact transpired. This is President Trump’s legacy. It is bad for worldwide freedom and democracy, and I fear it is also bad for Israel and bad for the Jews.

This was before all the court cases. Family Thanksgiving dinners with the Pragers must be tense!

Trump won't win; find a better candidate. br br h... (show quote)

Jews overwhelmingly vote democrat. Look what it got them.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-trumps-jewish-supporters-say-hes-been-a-dream-come-true-on-israel/

JTA — Most Jews disapprove of US President Donald Trump and plan to vote against him. But for a segment of American Jewry, Trump has granted a growing list of long-held wishes.

“If your worldview is such that these things are unbelievable accomplishments and things that you’ve waited your whole life to see happen, this president is a dream come true,” Richard Goldberg, a former Trump administration official, told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency earlier this year.

Goldberg was referring to Trump’s actions on Israel. Surveys show that most American Jews vote based on the same issues that animate Americans in general, such as the economy and healthcare. A portion of American Jews, particularly those who favor a more dovish attitude on Israel and the Palestinians, disapprove of Trump’s posture toward the conflict, out of concern that it has further eroded the chances for a two-state solution. There are also those who worry that he has unraveled the Iran deal without a clear plan for putting something better in place to stop Tehran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons.

But for American Jews who prioritize unbridled support for the Israeli government’s concerns when they fill in their ballot, Trump has built up a near-spotless record.

The president has trumpeted that record in speeches to Jewish audiences, and his Jewish advocates have also made it the centerpiece of their case for Trump’s reelection. In June, the Republican Jewish Coalition released a nearly 8-minute video called “Sunrise” praising Trump’s record on Israel and contrasting it with US-Israel relations under president Barack Obama, who had a famously acrimonious relationship with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu and Trump are very close, and a recent poll showed that Israelis favor Trump’s reelection by a large margin as well.

Here’s a mostly chronological rundown of Trump’s record on key Israel-related issues, culminating with the recent spate of normalization moves with Arab states.

Israeli sovereignty over Jerusalem and the Golan Heights

Following unfulfilled promises by previous presidents to move the United States embassy to Jerusalem, Trump made the move and recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

Under former president Bill Clinton, Congress passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and stating that the embassy should be moved here. However, presidents ever since — from Clinton to George W. Bush to Obama — have invoked a waiver written into the law that allows them to postpone the move for reasons of “national security.” (As candidates, both Clinton and Bush promised to move the embassy.)

In contrast, in December 2017, before finishing his first year in office, Trump signed a proclamation at the White House saying the United States sees Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and directing the US State Department to start planning an embassy in the city. “While previous presidents have made this a major campaign promise, they failed to deliver,” Trump said at the time. “Today, I am delivering.” (This summer, he told an audience that he made the move to please his Evangelical Christian supporters.)

Jerusalem’s status as Israel’s capital is a consensus issue among Israeli Jews who otherwise disagree vehemently about how Israel should approach its conflict with the Palestinians. The city and its holy sites, including the Western Wall and Temple Mount, carry immense symbolism for most Israeli Jews. A Brookings Institute poll about the embassy move in 2018 found that 93 percent of Israeli Jews supported it.

Fast forward to March 2019, just two weeks before a tight Israeli election, Trump took a similar step by signing a proclamation that made the United States the first country to recognize Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights, the strategic plateau it captured from Syria in 1967 and annexed in 1981.

In 2018, Trump fulfilled another campaign promise — to pull the United States out of the Iran nuclear agreement reached by the Obama administration.

The deal — which Trump frequently lambastes as the “worst deal ever” — swapped sanctions relief for a rollback of Iran’s nuclear program. Trump had said he might stay in the deal if it could be renegotiated to remove “sunset” clauses that allow Iran to resume some enrichment of fissile material within a decade. He also wanted a tougher inspections regime and to include a missile testing ban in the deal.

“It is clear to me that we cannot prevent an Iranian nuclear bomb under the decaying and rotten structure of the current agreement,” Trump said. “The Iran deal is defective at its core.”

In pulling out, Trump bucked a full-court press by three European nations also party to the 2015 deal. French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and then-British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson all visited Washington in what proved to be failed efforts to persuade Trump to stay in the deal.

Since withdrawing from the deal, the Trump administration has repeatedly placed sanctio

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Truth Seeker wrote:

Thats what you have quit yur bitchin. You and lil DaveyO own these dark times.

LOL, what we really own is you, little fella!

Late for school today? LOL, poor little thing!

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Truth Seeker wrote:

I'd rather have a person that wants to pursue a fair election process than your criminal in chief Biden. Hope your proud of yourself

Pay attention, little boy, I have never supported Biden, so you're out of gas! Whine to Den-Den and maybe, just maybe, he'll hold your little hand when you pray to trump!

BTW, where is your proof to support the lie that the election was not fair? What a maroon!

Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US

DaveO wrote:

Pay attention, little boy, I have never supported Biden, so you're out of gas! Whine to Den-Den and maybe, just maybe, he'll hold your little hand when you pray to trump!

BTW, where is your proof to support the lie that the election was not fair? What a maroon!

There’s been plenty but ignored by you maroons

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Truth Seeker wrote:

There’s been plenty but ignored by you maroons

Oh, really! Why don't you give us your list as examples of your proof. Out of the "plenty" you speak of, lie-speak actually, you should be able to enlighten us with at least a couple of truths from the many investigations.

You really got to get away from the fifth graders you hang out with, you know, the ones that have to repeat what others say about them due to their lack of imagination. LOL, what a maroon!

What's next? "I know you are, but what am I!". LOL, you're too much!

Captryan Loc: Massachusetts

"More people working than at any point in American History"
I don't think that's true. What do you base that on?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Captryan wrote:

"More people working than at any point in American History"
I don't think that's true. What do you base that on?

Lies, corruption and support for the Democratic Socialist Party, I would think, from the posts here.

Dennis

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

Truth Seeker wrote:

I'd rather have a person that wants to pursue a fair election process

I agree and I wish it would be just one day for the election and everyone had a voter ID.

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

Truth Seeker wrote:

Jews overwhelmingly vote democrat.

I wonder how that started ???

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

dennis2146 wrote:

Lies, corruption and support for the Democratic Socialist Party, I would think, from the posts here.

Dennis

Running low on things to whine about?

dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii

dennis2146 wrote:

Once again you on the Left run your mouths but wit... (show quote)

Where is YOUR proof that Biden or The LEFT "HAS and continues on a regular basis to take away our freedoms with the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendments. How come not a one of you comments on THAT taking away of freedoms from We the People?" Dennis, Please don't give me your normal BS answers regarding proof: Google it yourself, don't you read, you should already know by now, etc.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

Caribou wrote:

Anybody but Trump

I hope he does not get the nomination...but still better than slojoe & the toe

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Truth Seeker wrote:

There’s been plenty but ignored by you maroons

Still waiting for your list.

You probably have a lot of homework to do, but it shouldn't take too long.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

lbrande wrote:

1-In my area, gas prices decreased from $6.499 to $5.899 at Arco as of yesterday;
2-No change in wages;
3-What used to cost $60.00 at the supermarket now costs $110.00
4-As of today, many lenders are offering rates as low as 8%;
5-No Impact
6-Dem failure
7-Gov't failure
8-Dem failure
9-US Leadership is vastly diminished causing the current series of wars. Antagonists are emboldened.